I just organized a three day symposium in Washington DC
for 60 Scholars and Fellows supported by the Kellogg Foundation,
mostly minority scholars, 25 predoctoral Health Policy Fellows,
a half dozen postdoctoral Scholars in Health Disparities and
a dozen Community Health Scholars, most of whom are doing
Community-based Participatory Research, where University Scholars
partner with community programs.
The Kellogg Scholars in these three programs have roots in
and interest in working with communities on health & development,
and invest lots of time building relationships with communities.
They are very keen on an activist agenda promoting health,
reducing disparities, fighting for social justice.
Barbara
-----Original Message-----
From: Jacquie Poitras [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:24 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: remind me again...
A very noble idea. Luckily for us, there are many middle- and
upper-class
individuals who see struggle to get into academia and spend their days
musing
about how wonderful it would be if those poor folk stopped dealing with
troubles paying the rent, buying food, and trying to escape the cycle of
poverty and instead went into the field of health promotion. It seems a
touch
paternalistic to me.
Jacquie Poitras
--- Bill Ward <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Dennis,
>
> Health Promoters tend to be middle class or above. They understand the
> middle and upper income groups and the methods work well there.
>
> What is needed is to recruit people from lower income groups into
health
> promotion. That has not happened yet. It may be that potential health
> promoters from the low classes are two busy fighting 'downstream'
> problems [
>
http://www.easp.es/ProyectosTem%E1ticos/wwwiuhpe/esp/ponencias/Inequalit
i
> es/Heeman.doc ] to have time for 'upstream' strategies.
>
> Bill Ward
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:36:19 -0400 Dennis Raphael
> <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> > please respond to [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Sent by: "The Health Equity Network (HEN)"
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > cc: (bcc: Dennis Raphael/Atkinson)
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: remind me again...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the last point is a useful one, and relates to an issue that
> > has been
> > bugging me for some time.
> >
> > In measuring health inequalities and impact on health inequlaities
> > we all seem
> > to be comparing and contrasting disparities in health status of two
> > populations with disparities in economic and social advanatage.
> >
> > Thus comparing the health staus within two populations with
> > comparable social
> > and economic status, but different smoking status would be
> > extremely
> > informative. But surely this has been done?
> >
> > I also think it would be useful to look at the health status of
> > populations
> > with similar social and economic status, but some with inequality
> > interventions (say through urban regeneration funding of some sort)
> > and some
> > without.
> >
> > This controlled approach would probably tell us more about the
> > effectiveness
> > of inequality interventions than the before and after assessments
> > that tend
> > to be done now.
> >
> > [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> > > Well, that is a good question. There is pretty good
> > > evidence that not smoking and possibly eating more
> > > fruit and veg decrease the risk of diseases that are
> > > major causes of premature mortality. There is also
> > > a debate on whether this is the case only for people
> > > who don't have other major health risks such as
> > > poverty. I would think non-smoking must actually
> > > be a better choice in strict health terms no matter
> > > what your economic situation. However, the next
> > > question is why should anyone living under such
> > > conditions NOW worry about a disease they might
> > > get in 20-30 years' time? And the next question is
> > > about the ethics of threatening people who already
> > > have so many serious problems with health doom
> > > unless they begin behaving in a more middle
> > > class way. I have never actually seen a study
> > > of disease incidence or mortality in a very
> > > disadvantaged population comparing those who
> > > did and did not smoke, come to think of it.
> > > Someone else might know one?
> > >
> > >
> > > healthDate sent: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:46:04 -0400
> > > Send reply to: Dennis Raphael
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > From: Dennis Raphael
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: remind me again...
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > > Remind me again how exercising, eating fruits and vegetables,
> > and
> > > > quitting smoking is going to improve the health of Ontarians...
> > > > --------------------------- News Release
> > > > Released:July 08, 2003
> > > >
> > > > Bitter strikes, rationed services, increasing poverty
> > > > and homelessness, and a crumbling social safety net
> > > > legacy of Tory policies
> > > >
> > > > Toronto - The Ontario Conservative government's social service
> > > > spending cuts are a false economy leading to growing poverty
> > and
> > > > homelessness, less home care support services, fewer affordable
> > child
> > > > care spaces, and increasing labour disputes in the community
> > agency
> > > > sector, say members of a social justice labour alliance.
> > > >
> > > > Many community-based social service agencies are in a deficit
> > > > situation, and in an effort to stay afloat financially, are
> > > > extracting wage and benefit concessions from already low-paid
> > > > workers. Bitter strikes, like the one now underway at
> > Toronto's
> > > > Central Neighbourhood House, a community agency that provides
> > home
> > > > support, shelter and youth services, and child care, are
> > becoming
> > > > increasingly commonplace in the sector.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Mel Bartley
> > > Dept of Epidemiology and Public Health
> > > University College London Medical School
> > > 1-19 Torrington Place
> > > London WC1E 6BT
> > > tel: 0207 679 1707
> > > mobile: 07740 438775
> > > fax: 0207 813 0280
> >
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