It's always a question of whether you see the glass as half full or half empty! When I met with a group of Chinese doctors from China  in Hong Kong last year, they did not deny all the accusations that you've both levied at the old regime. However, the young and educated elite are cognizant of the need to integrate GDP with quality of life. Relax and stop attacking all those who don't believe in overthrowing the "establishment" as knee jerk responses to everything that is wrong in our society.
Joe

Phyllis Hodges wrote:

> Well-stated, Brett. In touring China, I was shocked that many of the rural & not-so-rural homes don't even have any doors and windows. Although most have jobs, unemployment is increasing and unemployment levels are around 5%, I think. At that, the form of employment might be selling one's 50 oranges at the local market.
>
> Brett Hodson wrote:
>
> > I think its a myth that China is ready to move into the 21st century.  Much of the population lives in poverty, despite what the spin doctors would like everyone else in the world to believe, and in some locations lack some of the basic infrastructure to provide clean water and sanitation etc.  What China wants is control of individuals, communities and families, not 'power to the people'.  Most importantly China lacks strong democratic freedoms and respect for human rights that are prerequisites for health.
> >
> > Although I agree that we should work with the corporate sector to create conditions for health, we should not let the corporate sector (read multi-nationals advocating for global de-regulation that will simply further the advancement of a two class system -the rich and everyone else) or government with a communist political agenda use the guise of health promotion principles as a means to their own ends.
> >
> > Brett Hodson, Regional Health Promotion Coordinator
> > High River Hospital Annex
> > Headwaters Health Authority
> > 560 - 9th Avenue West
> > High River, AB
> > Ph: 403.601.1760
> > Fax: 403.652.0142
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> > >>> [log in to unmask] 01/30/02 07:57AM >>>
> > Dennis- You need to make the connection between a healthy population and a health
> > economy. The Europeans have highly educated, highly skilled and very healthy
> > workforce. Each summer half of France take one month off for holidays and the next
> > month the other half takes a holiday. In Europe all workers are entitled to 5 weeks
> > of holidays after one year on the job not like here where most people never take
> > holidays. We cannot make a case for a healthy society unless we get the corporations
> > and governments to look upon health care as an investment rather than a liability.
> > If continue to simply try to "fix" people instead of fixing the air, water,
> > violence, jobs, education systems, we will not only go bankrupt but we will also
> > have a very industrially uncompetitive workforce. In a modern post-industrial
> > society, Health and the Economy are interconnected and interrelated. That is why
> > China is introducing state run health care, life insurance, retirement benefits,
> > etc. China wants to be competitive in the 21st century and they want bright, happy
> > and healthy workers! We produce, dull, distressed and sick workers! Who is going to
> > have a higher GDP? That is the argument you need to use. Stop attacking the IBMs and
> > start to work with them!
> > Joe
> >
> > Dennis Raphael wrote:
> >
> > > I am speaking to the 36 medical officers of health of Ontario on Friday.  Any
> > > suggestions?
> > >
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > you wrote:
> > >
> > >   I am interested in knowing what it is that you believe public health should be
> > > doing to address this rather than focusing on "lifestyle" modification.  We
> > > have been raising determinants of health issues at the political level for
> > > years to no avail.
> > >
> > > Your ideas for translating this research into action would be appreciated.
> > > Joyce Fox
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