Oops, I've never been too good at this technology thing...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Annamaria Feltracco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: I'm Innocent!


> Dennis
>
> I hope you don't mind that I'm replying to you directly on this. And it
> isn't because I don't want these comments on the list serv - I just think
> the issue is not going anywhere and the accusatory nature of them is NOT
> productive.
>
> Here's my main issue:
>
> Why do you assume that because people object to your tone that they are
> "guilty" of something? You've turned a discussion about the tone used into
a
> healthy lifestyles approach vs. social justice approach to health
promotion.
> This has absolutely nothing to do with your views - I don't disagree at
ALL
> that there are many different ways to address tobacco use and that
> addressing poverty would be the best approach. I agree with this.
>
> What I disagreed with was your tone in your response - not the original,
but
> your subsequent response alluding to the suggeston that those who disagree
> with you are somehow less worthy of an opinion because you assume they are
> middle class, SUV driving... whatever (if you would like me to find it, I
> can dig it out of my delete bin). What if I told you I was a single mother
> who pulled myself up from the bootstraps, lived in assisted housing for
> years and came into health promotion when my CAS worker asked me to join a
> support group for battered women? Would that change your opinion of my
> comments?
>
> When I read your email, I didn't disagree with you, I just felt horrible
for
> the individual (who I don't know) who was being berated by someone -
> especially someone who is so well respected. My own personal concern over
> yours - and others - responses has kept me from posting to this list serv
in
> the past - and will continue to in the future. Does that make me insecure
/
> silly / irrational? Perhaps. But if you want to build rapport, community
and
> draw more folks into doing good work in this important business, its
usually
> not a good idea to shoot those who are seeking information / advice.
There's
> nothing wrong with being the one who is tilting at windmills, but there is
> something wrong with stomping on people while you're doing it.
>
> I don't want you to stop challenging Dennis, I just thought it's a good
idea
> to do so in a way that isn't stigmatizing and divisive.
>
> All the best,
>
> Annamaria Feltracco
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Raphael" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:19 AM
> Subject: I'm Innocent!
>
>
> > Vini, I went back to my original message -- below --.  You're right!
> > It wasn't rude at all! Although I started to believe it from all the
> responses
> > it elicited!
> >
> > Do some people feel "guilty" about something?
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > >I strongly object to this strategy.
> >
> > >First of all it is not child care's role to turn children against their
> parents
> > or relatives who may be smokers.
> >
> > >Secondly, childcare should not be a place where children become exposed
> to
> > politicized messages.  If my kid came home from childcare singing
> anti-smoking
> > songs the childcare would hear about it.
> >
> > >Thirdly, our family does not smoke!
> >
> > >Give these kids a break!!!
> >
> > dennis raphael
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