Right ON!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stirling, Alison" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: discussions about poverty, trans fats, and more about CLICK4H P
> Greetings and happy holidays,
>
> Dorothyanne has raised some important and timely issues about the nature
of
> this listserv. As one of the list-owners of CLICK4HP since it began in
> 1996, I have watched the ebb and flow of discussion and of membership, and
> the narrowing of participation in discussion in the past few months.
> CLICK4HP is not a 'moderated' list - it is open to all subscribers to
> participate in an active exchange of issues, ideas, resources and queries.
>
> CLICK4HP should be an environment of respect, trust and encouragement.
> Different personal perspectives of the broad field of health promotion are
> equally valid. We need to respect each other's perspective, discuss our
> views and come to a useful agreement.
> Our list's Minimum Standards of Respect and Personal Conduct ask that we:
> "Demonstrate respect for the ideas of others in your replies even if you
do
> not agree. Debate and discussion are welcome and encouraged. Do not send
> email when angry or upset.
> When attempting humour or sarcasm always clearly indicate this with
> the use of an emoticon such as :-) or ;-) commonly referred to as
smilies."
>
> There was a question about number of people on this listserv, which could
be
> viewed in two ways - number of subscribers (which I have monitored every
> month since Sam Lanfranco, Liz Rykert and I began this list) - or number
of
> participants. Although Dr. Raphael claims that the number of subscribers
> "has never been higher", he is not a listowner, and does not have access
to
> the subscriber adminstration. The number of subscribers today, at 1203, is
> in fact lower than a month ago (1228), and lower than in June of this year
> (1220).
> But more important is the question of number of participants in the
> discussions on the list, and the degree of safety and comfort that all
> subscribers feel in taking part in wide-ranging discussions. There has
been
> a proportional decrease in the number of people posting messages on this
> list over the past year as compared to 2000 and 2002.
> A critical analysis of the list discussions over the first three months of
> this year, by Michel O'Neill's graduate class at Laval University noted
that
> (as translated from french and summarized) 'messages that were less than
> respectful towards opinions submitted by health promotion professionals...
> appeared less than professional and that a strict code of 'Netiquette'
> should be followed so that all opinions are respected... the issue of
> respect is crucial in health promotion as it is the foundation for
> interventions in health promotion and should be valued.' "'De plus,
> certaines personnes pourraient hésiter à participer à une telle liste
ayant
> peur de se faire discréditer sur la place publique."
>
> Let us regard this holiday season as an opportunity to share and
appreciate
> each others contributions, and go into the new year with resolutions of
> keeping CLICK4HP list a welcoming and open exchange of perspectives on the
> field and practice of health promotion.
>
> Alison
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Alison Stirling, co-facilitator Click4hp listserv
> health promotion consultant, Ontario Prevention Clearinghouse
> email: [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask]
> Tel. 416-408-2249x226 or toll-free in Ontario 1-800-263-2846 x226
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dorothyanne Last [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: December 21, 2003 8:33 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: discussions about poverty, trans fats, and more
>
>
> Hello and happy holidays to everyone -
> I have recently resubscribed to this listserv after a period of absence
and
> I am discouraged to see that the discussion seems to have narrowed to one
> between Dr. Raphael and one or two others. There seem to be very few
people
> on the list and I wonder if it is because, although most of us would agree
> with the vital importance of addressing the determinants of health, we
would
> also like to see some other discussions about different areas of health
> promotion? Dr. Raphael would perhaps argue all the rest of health
promotion
> activity is meaningless, but I would differ. I have worked in physical
> activity promotion, in healthy family promotion, and am now working in
> injury prevention and tobacco addiction prevention. I have seen that we
can
> actually make a difference in the health of people with health promotion
> measures - maybe we are not reaching everyone - but we are reaching many.
> Without assigning blame.
>
> Is this listserv a free and open one? Are others welcome to voice an
> opinion without being flattened by rhetoric? When I first subscribed to
the
> listserv, some years ago, it was a wonderful place to hear about ideas and
> new research and to share our challenges. Right now, I find it
intimidating
> and barren. I remain hopeful it will return to its former broad and
> welcoming focus.
>
> Wishing everyone a more egalitarian new year, in discussion as well as in
> wealth.
>
>
>
> Dorothyanne Last
> RN, BSc, MSc
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