This description appears to be the best. As someone who has spent years trying to change policy in basic areas such as creating safe and affordable housing, providing healthy child care and recognizing the role lower income people play in the state tax structure, I would say that recognition of a problem comes first. Then we struggle to measure or quantify (usually with no funds) in order to explain the problem to others and initiate solutions. I have found that legislators are easier to reach than state departments who have programs and policies to protect. However, everyone thinks that what they do is part of the solution not part of the problem. You have to just keep pounding away with the facts until you get a little movement in as many different facets of an issue as possible, then change can happen.
dru osterud
St. Paul, Minnesota
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perhaps another way to describe it is
emergent, self-organizing and therefore complex..
ken thompson
pittsburgh
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Does it really, knowing that the 'stage' model is inaccurate / based on false assumptions about the policy process? Do you really think that the "measurement" of a problem is at the beginning of a policy process? Or else, do most researchers start to measure when they get their funding from CIHR and/or governmental agencies, who have considered the problem important enough to open a competition and grant some $$$ in the first place ??? There is no such "beginning" of a process, followed by subsequent 'stages'. The process is iterative.
NFB
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i cerainly agree with you! but it does indicate where a jurisdiction is
at...
dennis
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