GRETA DOUCET asked:

"Has anyone in Canada done an analysis of what it would cost to provide 
everyone with a living income versus spending so much time and energy 
trying not to do so?"

How about this:

Canadian GDP is guessed at about $100 billion (is this true?)

Divide equally among 30million Canadians $100 billion annually approx = 
$35000 each individual per annum

Assume half of GDP is distributed as Guaranteed Living Income = approx 
$18000 per annum = $18000 / 26 biweekly = $692 biweekly per individual GLI

So Annual GLI cost:

30million Canadians, 26 bi-week pays per year,

Total pay-out = $692 per bi-week x 30million x 26 bi-weeks = $ 7.8 x 
10exp11 annually = $5.4 x 10exp11 ie $540 billion annually - checks OK, 
as half assumed CDN GDP.

Note:

1) Costs and savings of GLI distribution assumed to be positive saving 
(which it probably will be - less complicated than present system), and,

2) Costs of living will reduce (which they will, since costs will be 
reduced - by eradication of cost components that at present go to 
unequal distribution mechanisms - rent, interest, dividends, and unequal 
pay for work - all of which will be rendered inoperable by this form of 
distribution.

Thanks for asking, Greta!

Best

john

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GRETA DOUCET wrote:

> Hi List Serve members,
> I haven't been around for a while..but then again, I have been here 
> for a fairly long time (Alive I mean). Has anyone in Canada done an 
> analysis of what it would cost to provide everyone with a living 
> income versus spending so much time and energy trying not to do so?   
> As I have said before, a long time ago, I was made aware of guaranteed 
> income or adequate income  and the potential benefits of making this 
> available to everyone in our society since the 1960s (Through CCSD and 
> the Vanier
> Institute and other conferences and educational forays).......  
> Here we are, more than 40 years later, still punishing folks who (for 
> whatever reason), cannot presently provide themselves an adequate type 
> of lifestyle through their own efforts. ....   My girlfriend says: We 
> cannot save everybody!!!!....  I say: ..'We're not even giving it a 
> shot' and "we certainly aren't helping those who can benefit from it 
> fully''and the 'many who are begging for help so they can better 
> themselves'.    What about it?  Some research and proof of what a 
> country could do if it provided for it's citizens in an appropriate 
> way.   I see so many who could contribute if only we gave them a hand 
> _*in some way.*_   Greta
> PS I'm not asking for handouts; I understand many folks just need a 
> little help so they can become self reliant.  In purely selfish terms: 
> Aren't we losing the potential contribution these citizens could make 
> in our society??? And aren't we being lesser humans for it???
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