For those still interested in stylometry, and with a bunch of airline miles
jangling around in their accounts:
It's free, and run by the best stylo hacker going.
I may show up myself and report back (will be in London in April)
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 3:36 PM Mac Donnell Rare Books <
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> Another problem in stylometric studies is finding an accurate text of
> the piece being studied as well as accurate texts for the control group.
> Texts taken from 19th century books often reflect house styles imposed
> by editors. This doesn't make all texts look alike, of course, but it
> makes them look a wee bit less different.
> I always laugh when I think of the scholarly excitement over Herman
> Melville's "soiled fish" --until it was discovered that Melville's fish
> were merely coiled, like everybody else's fish.
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Leslie MYRICK" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 2/18/2019 1:46:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Rediscovered Twain Sketch?
> >Update: now that I've removed my gearhead cap and looked again at the
> >sources, the Wilkie piece adhering too closely to Dickens was the first
> >chapter of A House to Let, on which he and Dickens collaborated. So,
> >hurray, R Studio application.
> >But misattributions are entirely possible when you use algorithms to read
> >On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 1:12 PM Hal Bush <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> BTW: even today there are pockets in America, often in the south and
> >> among more ardent groups of evangelical and/or fundamentalist
> >> who continue to pronounce the word "humble" as "umble." As in, "he's
> >> umble man!"
> >> I even know a few.
> >> That fact sort of reminds me of all the ballyhoo & brouhaha when our
> >> leader the President mentioned "2 Corinthians." Actually, it turns out
> >> that many pockets of church folks still call it 2 Corinthians, or 2
> >> Timothy, or whatever. Of course it is beyond the scope of this post to
> >> argue that our leader said it that way due to his sympathies for the
> >> collar believers of the flyover district.
> >> ballyhoo & brouhaha are 2 great words making a comeback in our umble
> >> of Trump...
> >> Dr. Hal Bush
> >> Dept. of English
> >> Saint Louis University
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> 314-977-3616
> >> http://halbush.com
> >> author website: halbush.com
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Leslie MYRICK <
> >> [log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:40:44 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Rediscovered Twain Sketch?
> >> It appears that "humble" was occasionally pronounced with a dropped H
> >> in the US at the time, especially if the speaker was from a family that
> >> immigrated from the UK, or, like the Express's political editor, from
> >> Canada. (Bob Hirst would know whether Larned's editorialzing was ever
> >> *sustainedly* humorous).
> >> Or, as I think someone else has noted, "an humble" could have been in
> >> case, if it *was* written by MT, a typesetter's mistake.
> >> I took a look at "an humble" in the NYS newspapers archive, and found
> >> interesting case of "a humble" vs "an humble" in the transcription of a
> >> speech by an Illinois congressman on the effects of Republican tariffs
> >> farmers. If you compare these two versions, whose links will hopefully
> >> preserve the highlighting, you'll see at least one case of humble
> >> with a silent H and a voiced H in two reprints, suggesting an
> >> based on differences in dialect.
> >> Geneva Gazette, 10 Jun 70
> >> Herkimer Democrat, 3 Aug 70
> >> A survey of the same speech in newspapers.com shows 44 cases of "an
> >> humble," which is apparently how it was enunciated by Rep. Marshall,
> >> faithfully transmitted, vs 9 cases of "a humble." The typesetter's or
> >> editor's intervention was apparently the dropping of the "n" in this
> >> But this sort of intervention could go both ways, depending on a
> >> dialect affinities
> >> All to say, I suggest that "an humble" could just be a typo, and not
> >> necessarily a viable data point -- or what I used to call, before I
> >> from MTP, "a glitch."
> >> I say data point, because in at least one branch of stylometry,
> >> conjunctions, and other words more unconsciously generated by a
> >> brain appear to make the best case for identification.
> >> For Too Much Information on how stylometry works (yet you can cherry
> >> really useful information from it) see
> >> Leslie
> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:13 PM Clay Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thanks, Barb! I've added it to my amazon shopping list - will
> purchase it
> >> > later.
> >> > - B. Clay Shannon
> >> >
> >> > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 5:57:19 PM PST, Barbara Schmidt
> >> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Clay asked -- Has anybody compiled a list of Twain's "vocabulary"
> >> > Yes.
> >> >
> >> > A MARK TWAIN LEXICON by Robert Ramsay and Frances Emberson.
> Published in
> >> > 1963.
> >> >
> >> > Barb
> >> >
> >> >