but why should they do it for free...why can't the health system put in
place a program that hires hygienists to do the preventive and initial
filling work within the school system: all the kids are covered that way and
we have programs that work.
m
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From: Social Determinants of Health [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of w
gail richardson
Sent: March 6, 2007 6:06 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [SDOH] Fwd: For want of a dentist/Healthcare or lack of
advertising pressure
In Saint John NB, my dental hygienist and several colleagues go a regular
basis to the Boys n Girls club to that very thing. They have for years. They
all are professionals with careers but do this for free.
Gail
-----Original Message-----
From: Social Determinants of Health [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Diana Liw
Sent: March 6, 2007 6:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [SDOH] Fwd: For want of a dentist/Healthcare or lack of
advertising pressure
I think that these are all great "what ifs". I'd like to add a few more...
What if dental hygienist (even better dentist) are willing (without pay) to
visit school class rooms to teach young children the proper way of brusing
teeth and the basics of maintaining oral health? I actually know of a
friend that did that while she was finishing her training as a dental
hygienist.
What if adolescents (or even pre-teens) are give comprehensive sex education
(which includes information and "actual" resources, not just lip services on
contraceptives, safe sex and abstinence) which tailor toward the each
child's needs (using the youth development strategies of communication, peer
counseling, mentoring and etc), so that they don't get pregnant the first
place, and we don't need expensive nurse home visitation programs to
"support young families"?
And "YES" what if we don't use food as reward for our children's good
behaviors.
>>> Dennis Raphael <[log in to unmask]> 03/06/07 2:06 PM
>>>
---------------------- Forwarded by Dennis Raphael/Atkinson on 03/06/2007
05:07 PM ---------------------------
To: Dennis Raphael <[log in to unmask]>
cc:
Subject: Fwd: For want of a dentist/Healthcare or lack of advertising
pressure
Dear Dennis I could not get this response to go up to the list serve.
Please can you forward it for me
thanks
Philip
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Philip Dawson <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sat Mar 3, 2007 8:35:55 am Europe/London
> To: Social Determinants of Health <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: For want of a dentist/Healthcare or lack of advertising
> pressure
>
> Dear Readers!
>
> This has echoes in the UK!
>
> I agree that the chain of events starting with the lack of dental
> care ultimately lead to the death of a young man.
>
> There are a number of steps in the process which seem to point to a
> system failure rather than individual failure.
>
> What if the child had not been subject to an endless series of
> Television and Radio adverts talking about sweets.
>
> What if sweets had not been used as a reflex reward system.
>
> What if there had been routine immunisation against the bacteria
> that caused dental caries [available but currently suppressed in the
> UK]
>
> What if there had been better nurse education and simple dental check
> ups by school nurses. [After all it is as easy to open a mouth and
> take a digital photo of what is going on as it is to measure a child's
> height weight and waist circumference.]
>
> What if airline safety standards where applied to our most vulnerable
> members of society [the high risk taking adolescents]
>
> The UK government is becoming increasingly concerned that there are a
> number of behavioural problems that inevitably come to the notice of
> the law courts as antisocial behaviour and damage to society. They
> feel that teenage pregnancy may be the early stages of this type of
> problem. I hope they will bring back Health Visiting which was a
> highly trained nurse who would work with the under 5's and their
> parent(s) to specifically improve and change the hopes of younger
> children in society before such events as 'for the want of a dentist'
>
> The Health visitor was initially introduced prior to the 1914-1918
> war in-order to ensure there were enough fit young men without ear
> disease to fight in the Army.
>
> Will history repeat itself?
>
> Philip
>
>
> On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 09:20 pm, Maija Kagis wrote:
>
>> Saskatchewan had a wonderful school plan with hygienists doing basic
>> work, but it was canned by the Conservatives in the 80's under
>> pressure from dah dah: ...the dental profession. We need to
>> remember some of our history./
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Social Determinants of Health [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
>> Diana Liw
>> Sent: March 1, 2007 11:57 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [SDOH] For want of a dentist
>>
>>
>> Dental health definitely needs to be part of the universal health
>> care coverage (not just the basic screening, but care and treatment
>> as well). Dental health not only links to other diseases/adverser
>> health condition, it also correlates to mental health. Peridontal
>> diseases have also linked to premature births. Studies have shown
>> that children who have dental health issues (dental caries, bad
>> teeth, tooth ache, and etc) have lower self esteem, and do poorly in
>> school. This could apply to employees as well. Your work
>> performance could be affected if you have dental health problems.
>>
>> I believe that there is a California-wide school policy (I don't have
>> the exact policy) passed recently that in the near future (with the
>> year), all children entering pre-school/elementary will need to have
>> a dental exam. There are also exemptions for families without health
>> insurance or have religious or whatever reasons. But dental
>> associations are working with the schools so that children who do not
>> have insurance (or dental insurance) could get free exams.
>>
>>>>> Dave Cundiff <[log in to unmask]> 03/01/07 8:42 AM >>>
>> Thanks, Robyn.
>>
>> In this case, the dental cause of death is pretty clear. That's
>> unusual.
>>
>> We now think it's very common for dental disease to contribute to
>> other diseases -- especially heart disease.
>>
>> Even more common, perhaps, and maybe more costly for society, is for a
>> patient's untreated dental disease to cost him/her a job opportunity.
>> Most employers won't hire people with visibly bad teeth.
>>
>> Dental care is expensive, but (at least in its basic forms) it is not
>> optional. Should we fund universal basic dental care via a tax on
>> caries-promoting food and drink? It seems like a reasonable idea to
>> me!
>>
>> Best wishes --
>>
>> Dave Cundiff, MD, MPH
>> Olympia, Washington, USA
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Quoting "Kalda, Robyn" <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17372104/
>>>
>>> WASHINGTON - Twelve-year-old Deamonte Driver died of a toothache
>>> Sunday.
>>> A routine, $80 tooth extraction might have saved him.
>>> If his mother had been insured.
>>> Story continues below * advertisement
>>> If his family had not lost its Medicaid.
>>> If Medicaid dentists weren't so hard to find.
>>> If his mother hadn't been focused on getting a dentist for his
>>> brother, who had six rotted teeth.
>>> By the time Deamonte's own aching tooth got any attention, the
>>> bacteria from the abscess had spread to his brain, doctors said.
>>> After two operations and more than six weeks of hospital care, the
>>> Prince George's County boy died.
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robyn Kalda
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