Hello Ken,
We are....I know that Serena is also part of this list.
the CCPH conference is May 31 in Minnesotta. It will be my first time
there, and if there is anyone from the list going, I would love to meet
you.
ANA
Ana Natale-Pereira, MD, MPH
Assistant Professor of Medicine
Division of Academic Medicine, Geriatrics, and Community Programs
Medical Director
Communit Based Networks
30 Bergen Street ADMC-6-614
Newark, New Jersey 07102
Office: 973-972-8994 or 1744
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Hi all,
are folks on this list aware of the US group called "community-campus
partnerships for health" (ccph). definately worth a google.
ken
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From: Social Determinants of Health on behalf of Bill Braun
Sent: Thu 5/25/2006 1:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [SDOH] Brokering university knowledge to community
agencies
Greta, you've simply tilted the same distance in the opposite
direction. Your understanding of higher education is as flawed as
Gail's, just a different array of flaws.
This is a good opportunity to practice inquiry - righteous indignation
may feel good but will produce far more heat than light.
Gail, tell us more about your point of view. How did you come to see it
the way you do. Upon some reflection, are there examples of fruitful
collaborations that may serve as models for what you advocate?
Bill Braun
GRETA DOUCET wrote:
As you did, Crystal, I attended University, And I am
flabbergasted by the comments made by Gail. I hope and believe she read
that somewhere. I kind of hope she does not believe it!!!I.... It is a
very snobbish, intellectuallistic, elitist, non-sensical statement.
Instead I strongly believe that 'real information' comes from
wise folks of any race, gender, creed or formal education level. True
wisdom is not often found in books nor in research. Sometimes research
proves what many already know. I agree that may be useful. for the many
who are not wise. From what I have seen, heard and witnessed, some
University folks, who have learned a lot of fancy words, grab on to
knowledge (Wisdom) and make it fancy with all kinds on
non-understandable 'lingo' and numbers. I may be exagerating to make
the point. But I'm sure some of you get my message.
Gail, I know you are still a student in the 'formal system'....
So am I .... Let's not let our studies get to 'our head'... It happens
to me sometimes too. Let's not forget to go listen to the fishermen
and to the farmers who do not have many degrees but they sure can get a
person get down to earth through their wise words. There's lots of
wise 'not formally educated' people. Greta
Chrystal Ocean <[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
Oh, I can understand Veli's diagram, and Gail
Richardson's reply on the same
subject. What I can't understand is the message, which
has left me stunned.
Here is Veli's diagram, translated into an email format
that is easier to read:
1. Direction is bottom-up: a) Community has a
problem/issue, then b)
Coordinator/liaison takes problem and works with
University to develop
research, then c) University does targeted research.
2. Direction is top-down: a) University disseminates
research findings to
Coordinator/Liaison, then b) Coordinator Liaison
interprets and transforms
research into useable info and markets the info to
community, then c)
Community uses the knowledge to better the community
related the issue.
And here is the introductory paragraph from Gail's
post:
"Universities are creators and keepers of knowledge,
some of it based on, or
relevant to, the community. Ideally the community uses
the information to
inform activities and take actions. Most communities
(unless they have
members trained in research from the Universities) are
unable to produce
quality research. Most are unable to critically appraise
research." [The
rest continues within the same theme.]
So, is it just me? Or do others see something terribly
wrong with this picture?
Ocean
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