I feel like things should be publicly financed, administered and delivered.

H-ck, maybe publicly financed and administered, and privately delivered.

How 'bout  publicly financed, and privately administered and delivered?

Could you believe privately financed, and publicly administered and delivered?

I guess what I'm trying to say is that right now, considering the  
broad range of inarguably and arguably insured and uninsured health  
services in Canada, things in effect are already both publicly and  
privately financed, and both publicly and privately administered and  
delivered.

There are numerous examples of public health care facilities billing  
private third party plans, and obviously vice versa.

"Public, private health should co-exist, says CMA"

Well, they already do.

Where I think this whole thing falls apart though, is in the idea that  
there is a 'public' and 'private' health. Things can get very dicey  
there.

My estimation is that there is only one thing: health.

This, irrespective of the fact that public and private  
ideologies/structures/interests/etc may impact health.

I think the argument is made much simpler when it is insisted upon  
that the discussion be about our health, as individuals and as a  
collection, and this can really only be addressed by individuals and  
by our communal action towards our notion of a social right to health  
(and health care).

It is the latter that is important, the details will come out the other end.

To be sure, it is clear what Canadians want, the poll currently sits  
at roughly 92% NO, and only 8% YES.

And just to throw in my bias, if you ask Canadians, 83% say that  
dental care should be part of the public system, yet when you ask them  
exactly for who, 'everyone' drops to 66%, with children recognised  
next, then seniors, then anyone without private insurance.

Universality rules.

CQ


Quoting Scott Wolfe <[log in to unmask]>:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> This morning a Canadian nation-wide paper, the Globe and Mail,   
> published an article on its front page "MDs launch fresh bid for   
> two-tiered care". The Canadian Medical Association released a policy  
>  paper yesterday with this recommendation, despite their   
> acknowledgement that "only a small number [of all doctors in Canada]  
>  have indicated an interest in moving to the private system". Most  
> of  us in Canada who work with clients that face barriers accessing  
> care  under the current system know that things can only get worse  
> in a  two-tiered system -- the movie Sicko is but one example of how  
> bad  things could get.
>
> If you are Canadian, I sincerely urge you to vote "NO" on the Globe   
> poll and, if possible, to add your feedback in writing. Please   
> forward this to your colleagues, and friends as you see fit. At the   
> time of writing only 8% of voters in the Globe poll have supported   
> promoting two-tiered medicine in Canada while an overwhelming 92%   
> have voted NO to two-tiered care! Please help send an overwhelming   
> message that Canadians do not want two-tiered health care by adding   
> your vote. Solutions lie in Canada's public health care system. The   
> poll is only one question, and takes 20 seconds or less.
>
> To non-Canadian subscribers to this list, thanks for indulging this   
> message and even more so for your interest.
>
> Here are the links:
>
> Vote NO on this issue in the Globe poll at:   
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/ <http://www.theglobeandmail.com/>    
> (Should Canada encourage doctors to set up a private practice   
> provided they continue to accept patients on medicare?) The link to   
> the poll is on the right-hand side of the page.
>
> You can also enter your comments by linking to the article through   
> the Globe's homepage or directly at:   
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070730.wmedicare0730/BNStory/National/home   
> <http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070730.wmedicare0730/BNStory/National/home>
>
>
> Scott A. Wolfe
> Senior Policy Analyst/Analyste principal en politiques
> Association of Ontario Health Centres (AOHC)/
> l'Association des centres de santé de l'Ontario (l'ACSO)
> 1 Eva Rd. - Suite 220
> Toronto, Ont.      CANADA
> M9C 4Z5
> Tel: (416) 236-2539 x234
> Fax/Téléc: (416) 236-0431
>
> "Promoting Access to Primary Health Care in Ontario"
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Social Determinants of Health [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf  
>  Of Dennis Raphael
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:25 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [SDOH] SICKO Review
>
>
>
> I just saw the movie.  IT WAS GREAT!.
>
> And it is not just limited to health care, it has much about SDOH as well.
>
> While feeling good about being Canadian, I really weant to be FRENCH!
>
> It made me worry about my relatives and friends in USA.
>
> I plan to show the film in all my health policy courses.
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