My thought, too - I'm sort of speechless at urinals rising from the
street late in the evening.  The mind's eye boggles.  While I don't
disagree AT ALL about the need for more toilet space for women, I think
the gist of this is that women - generally - aren't peeing in the alleys
at 2 am.  On the other hand, I think if I was a guy I might be a little
insulted at the generalization.

Here's the bigger question - why don't Canadian cities do a little more
around the installation of public toilet facilities?  If you can manage
it in London and Paris, why not Victoria?  Or Calgary, Toronto...instead
of "no public restrooms" on the doors of most businesses?  Yes, there
can be problems with public facilities but not unresolvable ones.
Wouldn't that be better for everyone using the areas?

Comments from those with such facilities?

-----Original Message-----
From: Social Determinants of Health [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Diana Liw
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:26 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [SDOH] Public Pop-up Toilets

Hmmm.  I am not sure what to say about this.  I hope it's money well
spent.

I do want to make a comment about the statement:  "Hill said he wasn't
concerned about women wanting similar conveniences. "We are trying to
curb a problem primarily caused by males in the late evening hours."  I
really take offense with this.  If you have been to any conference,
meetings, functions anywhere (hotels, retaurants, community centers)
etc., there is always a line for the women, and NEVER for men.  I always
had an issue with this.  There is a serious design flaw.  Do women not
frequent these places?  How do you know they don't need to go?  Long
line/wait to go could be a serious health hazards for women, ever heard
of bladder infection and UTI?  And no, cranberry juice won't help!   



>>> Vanessa Yu <[log in to unmask]> 12/27/07 2:21 PM >>>
Victoria, BC to install first pop-up toilets!  But don't count on  
using them if you're homeless...

"A report to city council said pub patrons, not homeless people,  
accounted for most of the instances of public urination. Staff made  
the determination after monitoring use of the urinals."

... funding these public toilets may not been approved otherwise.

See article here:
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=1bcfb858-ad38-4ef5-
801e-26d341dee230&k=7255 

Vanessa

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