Kevin,

There are entitlement issues in the USA, but the problem of entitlement is
with the elite and the rich of the country, not the poor and down-trodden.

Mario

Social Determinants of Health <[log in to unmask]> on Friday, December 29, 2006
at 1:48 PM -0500 wrote:
>But you see the 'logic' is that 
> 
>* the 23% of USians in poverty are, and chose to be, on income
>assistance, (False)
>* the 'perks' of living on income assistance in the US prevent USians
>from lifting themselves out of poverty, (What perks?)
>* there are no substantive barriers preventing people on income
>assistance  from lifting themselves out of poverty, (False)
>* living on poverty-level assistance rates is fun. (Go ahead; try it for
>six months.)
> 
>While in Denmark:
>* income assistance is sufficient to ensure that those assisted are not
>in poverty, 
>* the 2% of Danes who are poor choose not to be on income assistance.
> 
>In reality, government policy determines the scope and depth of poverty
>in a country.
> 
>Ocean
> 
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------From:
>Social Determinants of Health [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of dan
>buchanan
>Sent: December 29, 2006 9:36 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [SDOH] Reflections on child & family poverty
>
>
>Leaving aside all the other concerns about your statement, your basic
>logic seem flawed.  If state provision eliminates, or even marginally
>decreases motivation to 'help themselves,' how do you explain the fact
>that Danish state provision to the poor is far more comprehensive than
>that in the US? 
>
> 
>On 12/29/06, Keven Mosley-Koehler <[ mailto:[log in to unmask]
>][log in to unmask]> wrote: 
>
>I disagree.  Many Americans feel entitled and by enabling them to continue
>on their path by providing such entitlements, we only contribute to their 
>situation their feeling of entitlement. They have no reason to help
>themselves...we are doing that for them.  While I believe that everyone
>needs help and assistance at some point, it should be geared towards
>helping 
>them help themselves. Unfortunately this is often not the case.
> 
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Mario C. Browne, MPH, CAC
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