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William Robison <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:41:59 -0600
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At the risk of being crude, would anyone object to using the form
"motherf----r" rather than spelling out the potentially offensive word? (I
hope this passes the fraud detection test.)

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Gregg Camfield <[log in to unmask]>

> When my orthodox Jewish students quote passages that use the word "God,"
> th=
> ey write "G-d" because they believe they are not to use the name of the
> lor=
> d.   I don't object.  Similarly, I would not object to someone who had a
> pr=
> incipled belief that they shouldn't use any number of objectionable words
> b=
> ut were willing to use ellipses or dashes or asterisks as placeholders. =20
> Twain would probably make fun of the practice, as his repeated use of
> "Hali=
> fax" as substitute for "hell" in his early writings suggests, but he
> capitu=
> lated to the editor's blue pencil quite often.  Plus ca change . . . .
> Gregg =20
> -----Original Message-----
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> Barbara
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> Subject: I failed a "fraud detection" test for previous post on quoting
> sen=
> sitive material from Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
> I just posted a question about quoting from Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
> =
> =3D and apparently my post "failed a fraud detection test."
> I am myself.... not a robot or phisher.... I'll try again.
> a question for teachers in colleges and universities and people in
> publishi=
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> ng:
> --I cannot find anything in the Chicago Manual of Style or the MLA Style
> Gu=
> =3D ide (or through Google) that deals with the use of the n-word in
> writte=
> n qu=3D otations from literature (in academic papers written by students).
> =
> My posit=3D ion has always been that one quotes verbatim provided the
> quota=
> tion is esse=3D ntial to the argument. I am very uncomfortable with
> student=
> s using "n****r"=3D  (which they do) or using brackets or ellipsis to
> avoid=
>  typing out the word=3D  in a quotation from Twain or any other writer. I
> t=
> ell them that if they ob=3D ject to typing out the word in their papers,
> th=
> ey may summarize the content=3D  of the quotation in their own words, but
> i=
> f the quotation is essential to =3D what they are arguing, they need to
> typ=
> e the passage as it actually appears=3D  in the text.
> A search for the subject online just shows articles and blogs and so on
> dea=
> =3D ling with the use of the word in speech, but not in academic writing.
> I'm curious about how others deal with this.
> Barbara Ladd
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William B. Robison, PhD
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