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Clay Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
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Clay Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
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I may be the only one confused, but when you say "the results were conclusive," what was your conclusion? - B. Clay Shannon

      From: Jennifer Zinck <[log in to unmask]>
 To: [log in to unmask] 
 Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:15 PM
 Subject: Re: Twain Relatives
   
I am the genealogist who completed the DNA research for Carkeet's project an=
d the results were conclusive. I do several of this type of case each week a=
s well as identify parents or grandparents for adoption cases and this case'=
s results were one of the most obvious. (The clusters were a genetic genealo=
gist's dream.) I didn't do my research based on any tree created by Susan or=
 David. I created my own tree for Susan utilizing the actual genetic data as=
 it related to matches and I was able to definitively identify all of her gr=
andparents. Although Susan did give me permission to share my conclusions, I=
 am not inclined to do so, as I don't feel it would help anyone in any way. I=
 didn't realize there is still discussion about the matter.

Kind Regards,
Jennifer Zinck
Professional Genealogist=20

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> On Jan 9, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Shoshana Bailey <[log in to unmask]> w=
rote:
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> I have never answered Carkeet's conclusions and I'm not now but=3D20
> I will say one thing. He based a lot of his conclusion on the assumption t=
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> t I had put up a family tree and that is how I came up with the Clemens/La=
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> donlinks. Now Barbara is addressing that same issue.=3D20
> I had NOT attached a tree to my DNA for the first several years. The DNA m=
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> ches I got with Clemens and Langdon were sent to me organically by Ancestr=
y a=3D
> nd FTDNA (who, at the time, didn't have trees.)
> It was only after getting over 100 matches that I attached a tree.=3D20
> Regards,
> Susan Bailey
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> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>> On Jan 9, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Barbara Schmidt <[log in to unmask]> wrote=
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>> =3D20
>> Hal --
>> =3D20
>> David Carkeet's research on the flawed methodology used to establish DNA
>> connections to Clemens via ancestry.com family trees was the game changer=
.=3D
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>> His essay on his months long research and first hand experiences in worki=
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> g
>> with the DNA reports is online at:
>> =3D20
>> http://www.twainquotes.com/Carkeet/AncestryReport.html
>> =3D20
>> In a nutshell, anyone can plug in a false or inaccurate family tree at
>> ancestry.com after submitting a DNA test, and the ancestry.com database
>> will generate a list of people who are also related to people in the tree=

>> one believes is their own tree.  Just about anyone can be distantly relat=
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> d
>> to someone else who ties in to the Clemens family tree in some fashion if=

>> the family tree branches are traced back far enough.  =3D46rom Carkeet's r=
ep=3D
> ort:
>> =3D20
>> "... 'What you are seeing is the result of endogamy, intermarriage within=
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>> population group. In the year 1700, the population of the United States w=
a=3D
> s
>> approximately 250,000 people.' In other words, it is a small world. Or,
>> more to the point, it was a small world, with so few people in the pocket=

>> of immigrant history that I share with my matches that if I select a
>> specific name from the past (in this case, with my false genealogy, an
>> ancestor of Samuel Clemens), some match of mine from among my more than
>> 6,000 matches will descend from that ancestor."
>> =3D20
>> Barb


   

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