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Sender: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:01:56 -0600
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In Windows Live Mail the encoding has changed from OE. The options are "Western European (Windows)," "Western European (ISO)" and "More."  "More" includes two dozen languages, plus UTF 7 and UTF 8. The "Western European (ISO)" is an ASCII code, which is what I've been using in other listservs without any problems.  I'm not sure about "Western European (Windows)" but we are about to find out since I'm sending this message with that encoding using plain text to see what happens.

My understanding is that Twainweb is still on Windows 98. It is also my understanding that some members have no trouble viewing some messages that appear garbled to others. This makes me suspect there are conflicts between various platforms (which is why I noted what email system I was using). 

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Alan Eliasen 
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:49 PM 
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: This is a test message for plain text 

On 11/27/2014 09:06 AM, Kevin Mac Donnell wrote:
> This message is in plain text, sent from Windows Live Mail (Windows 7).
> 
> Here are three commas   ,   ,   ,=20
> 
> Here are three quote marks  =E2=80=9C   =E2=80=9C   =E2=80=9C
> 
> Here are three apostrophes  =E2=80=98   =E2=80=98   =E2=80=98

   FYI, those aren't normal quote marks nor apostrophes.  That is, those
aren't ASCII.  Those are UTF-8 encoded versions of the high Unicode
characters "U+201C LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK" and "U+2018 LEFT SINGLE
QUOTATION MARK."

   To solve this, you (and everyone with this problem) should turn
"smart quotes" off in your e-mail client (because they're not actually
smart, nor in the sample above are they correctly balanced, nor do they
correspond correctly to the key you pressed on the keyboard.)  To be
portable, plaintext e-mail should be sent using only ASCII characters.
Apparently the remailer software doesn't understand the encoding you're
sending out, and is unreliable for UTF-8 encoding.

   The Paige typesetter was a technical nightmare that could never be
made to function in the way it was intended, and it ruined Twain and
others, but it still worked better than any Microsoft product.

-- 
  Alan Eliasen
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