----------------- HES POSTING ----------------- With regards to Kevin's comment that >>Smith's liberalism was qualified with a lingering debt to civic humanism.<< Is there any such thing as liberalism without "civic humanism"? Or is this a reference to a "liberalism" which is a 20th century construct of a particular wing of academics? If Smith isn't a liberal full stop, who is? Greg Ransom [log in to unmask] ------------ FOOTER TO HES POSTING ------------ For information, send the message "info HES" to [log in to unmask]