----------------- HES POSTING ----------------- I would be inclined to reverse the causality, James. Private property is secure when the poor have viable alternatives to theft. Just last night I was glancing at an article about the Zulu in National Georgraphic. One of the young people in the piece asked what alternative they had to car jacking. Rationalization? Maybe, but propbably not entirely so. Michael Perelman ------------ FOOTER TO HES POSTING ------------ For information, send the message "info HES" to [log in to unmask]