Alan, Amen. But actually, instead of changing the name of this forum, it might be simpler to start a new anti- or pro-Yahoo Group. Five specialized Twain Yahoo Groups already exit, but none with a presidential focus. I get bombarded with at least one e-mail a year from one such group, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/twainsnewyork/, "a forum for people interested in Mark Twain's long association with the city and state of New York". For help in starting a group, see http://groups.yahoo.com/. Or I'll be glad to assist anyone who'll contact me offline. Larry Marshburne