Dennis Raphael wrote: Is there any way to get the USA off ethnic and racial disprarities and onto income disparities? :-) .................................................................................................................................. Sivan Bomze <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Racial Disparity can lead to income disparity if the jobs aren't there for specific racial groups...can it not?? ........................................................................................................................................ I would also like to add my support to Sivan comment. Racism is a cause of income disparity and thus a determinant of health. Thus, if we are talking about racial disparities in health we must talk about racism and not just income issues. Also, if we talk about income disparities, we must talk about causes of these disparities. I feel that the language often used to talk about social determinants of health should be expanded from "povery, income and social exclusion" to talking about social inequality as a result of oppression: racism, sexism, homophobia, ableism, etc. In our Canadian society (where this listserv originates from) we are taught the myth that racism etc basically no longer occurs and that we are not supposed to talk about racism etc, and thus the language of "povery, income and social exclusion" doesn't necessarily lead people to think of oppression automatically. Somehow poverty is often constructed as the problem of individual people, rather than related to how people are poor because of systemic and everyday racist, sexist, homophobic, etc practices meant to exclude people who are not members of socially dominant groups (people of colour, women, queer people, etc) from jobs and other opportunities. It is better to be specific about the causes of health disparities so that we can then work to eliminate those disparities. Thanks, Lindsay ------------------- Problems/Questions? Send it to Listserv owner: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe, send the following message in the text section -- NOT the subject header -- to [log in to unmask] SIGNOFF SDOH DO NOT SEND IT BY HITTING THE REPLY BUTTON. THIS SENDS THE MESSAGE TO THE ENTIRE LISTSERV AND STILL DOES NOT REMOVE YOU. To subscribe to the SDOH list, send the following message to [log in to unmask] in the text section, NOT in the subject header. SUBSCRIBE SDOH yourfirstname yourlastname To post a message to all 1000+ subscribers, send it to [log in to unmask] Include in the Subject, its content, and location and date, if relevant. For a list of SDOH members, send a request to [log in to unmask] To receive messages only once a day, send the following message to [log in to unmask] SET SDOH DIGEST To view the SDOH archives, go to: https://listserv.yorku.ca/archives/sdoh.html