Wow! I'm so glad I asked, and am so ill-informed as to not have known a thing about it, so all the responses have been most illuminating! Many thanks for all the fascinating glimpses into the relationship between these contemporary Titans...all the more interesting for its fragmentation and ambivalence! Grateful to be a member of this forum! Wish I could contribute more than to just ask an occasional good question. I guess ignorance has its role. Ben