Samuel Bostaph wrote:   
> the general historical facts are well-known,   
  
Can you be more specific,  
perhaps with explicit reference to  
how Hobbes contributes to our  
understanding of such historical facts?  
  
Or, if we wish to be more concrete, perhaps  
you can illustrate with the "well-known"  
general historical facts about the misery  
created by the Social Security System  
in the United States.  (It is just one  
possibility; take your pick.)  
  
Thank you,  
Alan Isaac