Thanks, Kevin. I wish I could remember he title of that other book. It seems to me that it was a fairly recent liberally illustrated biography of Mark Twain. I think it also had one of the last photographs ever taken that includes Susy; that was taken on the porch at Quarry Farm with several older friends and family. I had never seen either photo and found both fascinating. Steve Courtney very kindly sent me a digital copy of the wagon photo. I will try to find a way to share it with interested members of the forum. Carl -----Original Message----- From: Mark Twain Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Mac Donnell Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:05 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara You may not be wrong. I tried magnifying that photo in Steve's book and I'm still not certain. If I have time later today I'll compare it to other Clara and Susy images from about that same time (some are on loan to the Hartford exhibit, so I may not even have the ones on hand that I think I do). The published location of that larger image would be helpful. If I recall, it shows their faces close up and not the entire wagon. Kevin @ Mac Donnell Rare Books 9307 Glenlake Drive Austin TX 78730 512-345-4139 Member: ABAA, ILAB ************************* You may browse our books at: www.macdonnellrarebooks.com -----Original Message----- From: Carl J. Chimi Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:08 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara In fairness, your book's caption for the picture does not actually = specify which girl is which. It only identifies them as Susy and Clara, = in that order. But, given the composition of the photograph, it would = not be a farfetched inference to draw that Suzy is the foreground girl = on the left, and Clara in the background on the right. The other book = that published that picture (the title of which escapes me) does = identify them in that way, if I recall correctly. And that's exactly what I suspect they ain't. It bothered me from the = first time I saw the picture in the other book. But I'm willing to admit I'm wrong. I'm more curious as to how (short = of there being verifiable contemporaneous written identifications of = reasonable provenance) any modern person could authoritatively identify = those two girls as Clara and Susy, and which is which. I guess it's these really, really small insignificant mysteries that = make scholars, eh? =F0=9F=98=80=20 Regards, Carl -----Original Message----- From: Mark Twain Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve = Courtney Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:33 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara Carl, that's in the Mark Twain House collection but I won't be there to = che=3D ck till next Wednesday -- I've labeled it as being one of the = 1890 Onteora =3D Park pix, and must (I hope) have had some solid basis = for doing that. Stay =3D tuned.=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D From the work Tracy = Brindle (MT House Chief Curator), Mallory Howard (her p=3D artner in = crime) and I did early this year in preparation for the "In His F=3D = ather's Image" exhibition at the MT House that's running currently -- an = ex=3D ploration of the three daughters and their lives -- I'd say almost = certainl=3D y that Clara is in the front, with the expression you = describe, and Susy --=3D likewise -- is in the back.=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D = Best,=3D0A=3D Steve=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D Steve Courtney=3D0A=3D = Special Projects=3D0A=3D The Mark Twain House & Museum=3D0A=3D 351 Farmington Avenue=3D0A=3D Hartford, Connecticut 06105=3D0A=3D 860-302-8969=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D ________________________________________=3D0A=3D From: Mark Twain Forum [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Carl J. Chimi = [cchim=3D [log in to unmask]]=3D0A=3D Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 5:29 PM=3D0A=3D To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D You're certainly = right, Barbara. I've seen many photos reproduced in=3D0A=3D reverse, or = misidentified. I didn't have this before me when I wrote the=3D = =3D0A=3D original post, but the picture can be found in Steve Courtney's = delightful=3D =3D0A=3D book "'The Loveliest House That Ever Was'" on = page 119. I've also seen it=3D =3D0A=3D in one other book I've read = within the last decade, but I can't remember=3D0A=3D which book.=3D0A=3D = =3D0A=3D The girl I think is Clara has a slightly mischievous look about = her that I=3D =3D0A=3D associate with young Clara's personality. The = other girl has a sadness in=3D =3D0A=3D her eyes that I associate with = Susie, especially around the time of her Bry=3D n=3D0A=3D Mawr days; she = also bears a resemblance to pictures of the young Sam=3D0A=3D = Clemens.=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D Carl=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D -----Original = Message-----=3D0A=3D From: Mark Twain Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of = Barbara=3D0A=3D Schmidt=3D0A=3D Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:55 PM=3D0A=3D To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D Carl,=3D0A=3D = =3D0A=3D I do not have that photo in front of me at the moment, but = from your=3D0A=3D description, I seem to recall it was taken at Quarry = Farm. I think=3D0A=3D sometimes part of the confusion in photo = identification comes when photos=3D =3D0A=3D are reprinted from = negatives/plates and are unintentionally "reversed" or=3D =3D0A=3D = "flipped." Without knowing who holds the original print or negative of = thi=3D s=3D0A=3D photo, it may be difficult to correctly pin down the = person on the left or=3D =3D0A=3D right in the frame and then determine = if subsequent reprintings are=3D0A=3D identified correctly.=3D0A=3D = =3D0A=3D Barb=3D0A=3D