I certainly agree that trying to identify people in 125-year-old photos by their expressions alone is insufficient. And my reply could be read as though that's what I was doing. Sorry. That said, to me the girl in front looks like Clara. Clara had a slightly receding chin and very intense, distinctive eyes. I see both features in that girl. And, she looks (to me) younger than the other girl. Clara resembled her mother more when she was young. And, of course, even if we can positively identify the front girl, the identity of the other girl is not then settled. She could be a friend, or a servant, or a local girl. But the girl in back sure does look like the earliest picture we have of Sam Clemens, and somewhat like some other early ones before he had the mustache. On the other hand, in later life Clara looked more like her father. So, as I said, I could be full of it. I appreciate your input. Carl -----Original Message----- From: Mark Twain Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Mac Donnell Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 6:30 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara The girl in the whiter dress, who is shown full length, looks like Susy. That would make the girl with the big tree growing out of her head Clara. Regardless of expressions I'd compare their faces to known photos of each. Kevin @ Mac Donnell Rare Books 9307 Glenlake Drive Austin TX 78730 512-345-4139 Member: ABAA, ILAB ************************* You may browse our books at: www.macdonnellrarebooks.com -----Original Message----- From: Carl J. Chimi Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara You're certainly right, Barbara. I've seen many photos reproduced in reverse, or misidentified. I didn't have this before me when I wrote the original post, but the picture can be found in Steve Courtney's delightful book "'The Loveliest House That Ever Was'" on page 119. I've also seen it in one other book I've read within the last decade, but I can't remember which book. The girl I think is Clara has a slightly mischievous look about her that I associate with young Clara's personality. The other girl has a sadness in her eyes that I associate with Susie, especially around the time of her Bryn Mawr days; she also bears a resemblance to pictures of the young Sam Clemens. Carl -----Original Message----- From: Mark Twain Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Barbara Schmidt Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:55 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Photo of Susie and Clara Carl, I do not have that photo in front of me at the moment, but from your description, I seem to recall it was taken at Quarry Farm. I think sometimes part of the confusion in photo identification comes when photos are reprinted from negatives/plates and are unintentionally "reversed" or "flipped." Without knowing who holds the original print or negative of this photo, it may be difficult to correctly pin down the person on the left or right in the frame and then determine if subsequent reprintings are identified correctly. Barb