Thanks for the explanation, Judith. I guess I should have figured that, but the quote was so obviously a pseudo-Twainism that I wondered if there was some other meaning to it than asking whether it was an authentic Twain quote. If Jim indicates that he is interested in when in the late twentieth century it appeared, I can help with that. Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Lee, Judith <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 9:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an authentic quote? Fred, I did see your response as a request for clarification, although give= n the number of spurious MT quotations in circulation, I thought that the i= ntent of Jim=92s query was not hard to discern. Judith Judith Yaross Lee, Ph.D. Distinguished Professor of Communication Studies & Charles E. Zumkehr Profe= ssor of Rhetoric Editor, Studies in American Humor * Director, Central Region Humanities Ce= nter School of Communication Studies * Ohio University * Schoonover Center 439 *= Athens, OH 4570 T:740-593-4888 * F:740-593-4810 * [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> * ht= tp://www.coms.ohiou.edu/judith-yaross-lee On Oct 25, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Shapiro, Fred <[log in to unmask]<mailto:fr= [log in to unmask]>> wrote: I'm not sure whether Judith Lee is referring to Scott Holmes's response, or= =3D my response, or both. But for my part, I'm probably the person in the wor= =3D ld best able to answer the original question. I was just trying to figure = =3D out what exactly the original questioner was looking for, so I could then h= =3D elp him. Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behal= f of Lee, Judith <leej@OH=3D IO.EDU<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__IO.EDU&d=CwIBAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=sRkhHMQo6W5Ird1lkQFqb23bCfSHAR2XjUSUG53db5M&m=0RMV9rQOaV4GdaVkQmzcaRPzr76OCC6IvQydCaSeE-M&s=FZF4yXkf5MOqfH7g2Hf0Wsh-x2stO6o5IBVWQ6Oc2m4&e= >> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:48 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an authentic quote? Is this the best we can do for a colleague who asks a question? Judith Judith Yaross Lee, Ph.D. Distinguished Professor of Communication Studies Charles E. Zumkehr Professor, Rhetoric & Culture Program Director of COMS Honors Tutorials Director, Central Region Humanities Center School of Communication Studies Ohio University Lasher Hall Athens, Ohio 45701 T: 740-593-4888 F: 740-593-4810 My newest book: _Twain's Brand: Humor in Contemporary American Culture_ <h= =3D =3D3D ttp://www.ohio.edu/people/leej/Twains_Brand.html> On Oct 24, 2016, at 10:43 PM, Scott Holmes <[log in to unmask]<mailto:s= [log in to unmask]><mailto:s=3D =3D3D [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote: I once saw a display, in a shopping mall, entitled Genuine Replica of the Liberty Bell. On Tue, 2016-10-25 at 02:03 +0000, Shapiro, Fred wrote: What do you mean exactly by "authentic quote"? Do you mean was it said by =3D3D3D Mark Twain? Fred Shapiro ________________________________ From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:TW= [log in to unmask]>> on behal=3D =3D3D f of James Caron < caron@H=3D3D3D AWAII.EDU<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__AWAII.EDU&d=CwIBAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=sRkhHMQo6W5Ird1lkQFqb23bCfSHAR2XjUSUG53db5M&m=0RMV9rQOaV4GdaVkQmzcaRPzr76OCC6IvQydCaSeE-M&s=md0o3--1Yc0sfk41OetNToPDdi2ZRhPkpOjFHYsov5o&e= ><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3D3D=http-3A__AWAII.EDU&d=3D=3D3DCwIBAg&c=3D3D-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=3D3DsRkhHMQo6W5Ird1lkQFqb23bCfSH=AR2XjU=3DSUG53db5M&m=3D3D8sIaD38WcEExRXBZq344XpTNLwGV_3-s8YPHUJZTCMA&s=3D3D1OIquafhD=1Za-=3DiQ_N8m2t3xhI6gwr1EPn-bNBVXDECI&e=3D3D>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:41 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: an authentic quote? "If voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it." Inquiring minds would like to know. -- There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3D3Dhttp-3= A=3D __bscottholmes.com&d=3D3DCwIBAg&c=3D3D-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=3D3DsRkhHMQo= 6W5Ird=3D 1lkQFqb23bCfSHAR2XjUSUG53db5M&m=3D3D8sIaD38WcEExRXBZq344XpTNLwGV_3-s8YPHUJZ= TC=3D MA&s=3D3DK4AFa2goPS4OIRIlV5W01YtEKr7Rc9LW69ITRtNbR3g&e=3D3D