I am not sure if this addressed to me but I used data from multiple separate tests to analyze Susan's results and all supported the same finding. I do not understand what is meant by "DNA process sabotage." Jen Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 9, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Mike Pearson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > With kind regards and respect, > > would You accept an invitation to comment about > > the issue of integrity of the data You receive? > > This not not an argumentative question. > DNA process errors have made the news > > quite a few times. DNA process sabotage > has also made the news quite a few times > > (the rare but real instances of fraud by intention or negligence) > Please grant this question some place in the dialogue. > > Persons with high IQs, open hearts, backgrounds in biology > > and big organizations, and respect for You > > are glad to have your response. > > I reviewed the book by Susan Bailey (on Amazon) and I mentioned > > the DNA process in passing. Seems to me Carkeet's a graceful writer > > whose humor is engaging. I didn't see him claim to know about DNA > > personally. His New England genealogy article's funny btw. > > However this turns out, nobody has egg on their face unless they turn > > renegade. > > Warm regards, > > > Mike Pearson > > P.S. I like the folks on this forum. You're awesome. Am I right? > > ________________________________ > From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Jennifer Zinck <jenz= > [log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 12:15 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Twain Relatives > > I am the genealogist who completed the DNA research for Carkeet's project a= > n=3D > d the results were conclusive. I do several of this type of case each week = > a=3D > s well as identify parents or grandparents for adoption cases and this case= > '=3D > s results were one of the most obvious. (The clusters were a genetic geneal= > o=3D > gist's dream.) I didn't do my research based on any tree created by Susan o= > r=3D > David. I created my own tree for Susan utilizing the actual genetic data a= > s=3D > it related to matches and I was able to definitively identify all of her g= > r=3D > andparents. Although Susan did give me permission to share my conclusions, = > I=3D > am not inclined to do so, as I don't feel it would help anyone in any way.= > I=3D > didn't realize there is still discussion about the matter. > > Kind Regards, > Jennifer Zinck > Professional Genealogist=3D20 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 9, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Shoshana Bailey <[log in to unmask]> = > w=3D > rote: >> =3D20 >> I have never answered Carkeet's conclusions and I'm not now but=3D3D20 >> I will say one thing. He based a lot of his conclusion on the assumption = > t=3D > ha=3D3D >> t I had put up a family tree and that is how I came up with the Clemens/L= > a=3D > ng=3D3D >> donlinks. Now Barbara is addressing that same issue.=3D3D20 >> I had NOT attached a tree to my DNA for the first several years. The DNA = > m=3D > at=3D3D >> ches I got with Clemens and Langdon were sent to me organically by Ancest= > r=3D > y a=3D3D >> nd FTDNA (who, at the time, didn't have trees.) >> It was only after getting over 100 matches that I attached a tree.=3D3D20 >> Regards, >> Susan Bailey >> =3D20 >> Sent from my iPhone >> =3D20 >>> On Jan 9, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Barbara Schmidt <[log in to unmask]> wrot= > e=3D > :=3D3D >> =3D20 >>> =3D3D20 >>> Hal -- >>> =3D3D20 >>> David Carkeet's research on the flawed methodology used to establish DNA >>> connections to Clemens via ancestry.com family trees was the game change= > r=3D > .=3D3D >> =3D20 >>> His essay on his months long research and first hand experiences in work= > i=3D > n=3D3D >> g >>> with the DNA reports is online at: >>> =3D3D20 >>> http://www.twainquotes.com/Carkeet/AncestryReport.html > [http://www.twainquotes.com/Carkeet/TSMCover2.jpg]<http://www.twainquotes.c= > om/Carkeet/AncestryReport.html> > > David Carkeet's Report on Susan Bailey's Ancestry<http://www.twainquotes.co= > m/Carkeet/AncestryReport.html> > www.twainquotes.com > Nina was a problematic personality, likeable and pitiable. Her parents clea= > rly loved her. Ossip nicknamed her "International Monkey" for her traveling= > life as ... > > >>> =3D3D20 >>> In a nutshell, anyone can plug in a false or inaccurate family tree at >>> ancestry.com after submitting a DNA test, and the ancestry.com database >>> will generate a list of people who are also related to people in the tre= > e=3D > >>> one believes is their own tree. Just about anyone can be distantly rela= > t=3D > e=3D3D >> d >>> to someone else who ties in to the Clemens family tree in some fashion i= > f=3D > >>> the family tree branches are traced back far enough. =3D3D46rom Carkeet= > 's r=3D > ep=3D3D >> ort: >>> =3D3D20 >>> "... 'What you are seeing is the result of endogamy, intermarriage withi= > n=3D > a=3D3D >> =3D20 >>> population group. In the year 1700, the population of the United States = > w=3D > a=3D3D >> s >>> approximately 250,000 people.' In other words, it is a small world. Or, >>> more to the point, it was a small world, with so few people in the pocke= > t=3D > >>> of immigrant history that I share with my matches that if I select a >>> specific name from the past (in this case, with my false genealogy, an >>> ancestor of Samuel Clemens), some match of mine from among my more than >>> 6,000 matches will descend from that ancestor." >>> =3D3D20 >>> Barb