I received an off-line comment that my note about drinking was thoughtless and a "stereotype that should have died long ago." Well, if anyone was offended, I apologize. I really did not mean it as a stereotype or a negative comment; I was just relating something that seemed to me to be relevant to how the Irish actually WERE viewed at that time, especially because Pap also was an alcoholic. Again, no intent to be insensitive. (I did mention that some of my own family is Irish, no?) Anyhow...... Mike Dooris, Penn State