Same debate now raging on Joyce listserve--a couple moralists ending their subscriptions because of references to masturbation, a flurry of discursive dead cats tossed in their general direction as they exit right, then objections to the humorists for lowering the tone, etc. =20 I think there's anxiety among members about listserves degenerating into chat lines or flirtsites. So many flatheads on internet, so much empty chatter. I doubt, however, that the Mark Twain Forum need worry about being crashed by cyberpunks who will pluck out pedantic beards and blow them in pedantic faces. Lots more exciting nodes out there. Cheers! Kelly Anspaugh