Michel--Thanks for the outline of your Montral conference talk; I won't be there, so appreciated your thoughts. I think the Australia stuff is a "boomerang" effect of my own talks, though what lies beneath it (evidence-based, market discourse, new manageerialism) is real and potent and is constraining for many in the HP area the ability to do the "social work" they want to and believe is important. Good luck with the presentation! Ron Labonte