At 11:42 AM 9/3/97 -0700, Ms. Kathy Farretta wrote: >this is an interesting debate, interesting in that we have covered it >backwards and forwards in my seminars as a history grad student. > >historians love to claim the objective "how it was" and deny that they >have an agenda of any sort. but to be truthful and honest this is not >possible. To this we should add the words of a contemporary of Mark Twain's, Ambrose Bierce. >From "The Devil's Dictionary": HISTORY, n. An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools. Of Roman history, great Niebuhr's shown 'Tis nine-tenths lying. Faith, I wish 'twere known, Ere we accept great Niebuhr as a guide, Wherein he blundered and how much he lied. Salder Bupp Marcus W. Koechig