====================== HES POSTING ====================== Two unrelated comments: 1) Has nobody commenting on this thread mentioned Mary O. Furner's excellent book, Advocacy and Objectivity (1975)? She discusses a series of academic freedom cases involving economists in the 1890s and the Progressive Era in the U.S. Her thesis, oversimplified, is that academic economists responded to attacks from business and elsewhere by retreating from engagement with social reform and claiming the mantle of professionalism and value-free scientific objectivity. [NOTE: Paul Wendt mentioned Furner's book in passing when talking about the Edwin Ross case -- http://www.eh.net/ehnet/Archives/hes/nov-97/0021.html, but it bears mentioning in a broader context as well.] 2) Jim Craven's comments on Friedman and the Chilean junta may be harsh, but they're valid and important. There's something wrong with a response to them that is more disturbed about Friedman's being shouted down at a talk than about his involvement with the Pinochet regime. I don't support shouting down speakers, but I haven't noticed that Friedman has had any difficulty in making his views known to large audiences over the last few decades. Daniel Pope History Department University of Oregon ============ FOOTER TO HES POSTING ============ For information, send the message "info HES" to [log in to unmask]