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Fri Mar 31 17:18:44 2006
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   Dear Roy, 
 
   I would love to learn from you the problems you see with the poor definition 
   of  production and the associated confusions. Your own messages on HES 
   archives  of  April and May 1997 are good ones about this. It would be 
   stimulating to see how you see the transition from political economy to 
   economics as it was partly shaped by unclear conception of production. Your 
   long-standing  interest in a sharper focus on the real wealth, and the 
   problems you see in the obfuscating mathematization that seemingly loses the 
   implications of property relations could be of great benefit to us if you 
   cared to point out what the recent literature has overlooked. 
 
   Please allow me to point out a few things. 
 
   1.      There seems to be room for a historical review of the evolution of 
   the  concept of production, and the many confusions surrounding it. In 
   particular, the Physiocrat views, Smithian notion of division of labor being 
   guided  by  profit,  Marxian  notion  of  mode of production, marginal 
   productivity theory of distribution, Coasian ideas about transaction cost 
   and the firm, Hayeks Prices and Production,  and Sraffas production of 
   commodities  by means of commodities would be excellent candidates for 
   inclusion in a minimal review. A broader review ought to cover reproduction 
   of human capital a la Malthus, Gary Becker, Julian Simon, and Mark Blaug as 
   well as the capital controversy and the IS-LM analysis. Then reproduction of 
   physical capital ought to receive attention with associated matters of 
   technological change and structural transformation. I suspect that it was a 
   bumpy ride, but I am eager to hear your opinion. 
 
   2.    It seems that prevailing semantic usages of the term includes what you 
   call rendering of services. I am not aware of any great benefit from keeping 
   services separate from tangible goods. In particular, recent efforts to 
   build indices of development other than GDP seem to include quality of life 
   and similar ideas in which the rendering of services plays vital roles. I am 
   curious about your views on how the distinction between commodities and 
   services can help us better understand the economy, and how others might 
   have thought about it. 
 
   3.      I also suppose that most people now-a-days feel comfortable with the 
   mathematical precision that comes from separating stocks from flows. I 
   believe that this separation is useful, at least for analytical purposes. 
   Thus taking stocks of output at a point of time as wealth, and then counting 
   a part of it as capital (though seemingly excluding human capital) may seem 
   reasonable. The flow of goods and services over a period of time is taken as 
   production, whose value is counted as income. The capital-output ratio 
   seemingly plays a vital role in the growth literature.  I am eager to learn 
   what you think about this. 
 
   4.      Being a little crazy guy, my own madness seeks theoretical clarity 
   about production. It involves connecting production to the pursuit of profit 
   through exchange in the market. And I agree that Smith provides a good 
   starting point. While I wish to agree with you that financial values do not 
   reflect the reality of the annual produce of the nation because nominal 
   values  are  artificially  changed by money, I wish to think about the 
   connection between the flow of money and the flow of output. The central 
   issue  in  macroeconomics  is indeed about the role of money in market 
   clearing, though it is not seen to be so. The most critical problem is to 
   separate  output from price and I think that there is no tenable price 
   theory. I am ignorant of whether poor definition of production is part of 
   the problem. 
 
   5.        My own madness has been too figure out a simple way of connecting 
   tradable  physical  output to fiat money, and then to relate output to 
   employment and investment in non-human capital. I like to believe that money 
   as a means of payment exerts a very vital influence on what and how much is 
   actually  produced.  To  show  that,  I have to abandon both micro and 
   macroeconomics, and certainly avoid monetary theory altogether. The reason I 
   must abandon micro and macro is that I must provide an explanation of both 
   the prices and the quantities of output in one coherent model. The coherence 
   means that micro and macro must be the same, and trade theory must also be 
   monetary theory. 
 
   6.       I strongly share your interest in production as being a process of 
   creating real wealth, not just paper values in some book of accounts. Most 
   people  are  happy with the notion of zero-profit equilibrium, and the 
   irrelevance of money as a store of value or a unit of account to the volume 
   of output or employment. To relate production to money by seeing money as a 
   means of payment (and not as a store of value)  requires much creative 
   destruction. 
 
   Let this good season be of good service to you. 
 
   Mohammad Gani 
 
   PS: In case you wish to see what I think about micro-macro confusion between 
   price and output, and the trade-theory -monetary theory confusion about the 
   relation  between  output  and money, the following working papers are 
   downloadable at a click. 
 
   New Trade Theory Takes Over Monetary Theory 
   http://econwpa.wustl.edu:80/eps/it/papers/0405/0405005.pdf 
 
   Micro Takes Over Macro 
   http://econwpa.wustl.edu:80/eps/mac/papers/0404/0404012.pdf 
 
   Money in Market Clearing 
   http://econwpa.wustl.edu:80/eps/mac/papers/0410/0410009.pdf 
 
 
 

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