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I don’t mind if it's shut down.  I don't see anywhere that I called you a "bot".  I said that what you had posted left you open to people having questions about whether posts coming from you are AI-generated.  That's not calling you a "bot" and it's not at all "bullying".

A more equanimous reading of what I wrote, I think, is that I'm trying to help you to understand the reaction you're getting.  In a friendly way.

It's the subject matter you introduced, not you yourself, that is giving rise to questions.  I don’t know that I can make that any clearer.

I don’t like apologies that apologize for the offended person being offended, so I will simply say you are reading what I wrote completely wrong but what I wrote offended you and I apologize for causing you to think you are being bullied.  I've been very welcomed on this list even though I have little to contribute as a scholar, and I want you to feel similarly welcomed.

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of DM Sataari
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 7:14 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: the unbearable lightness of Sataari

Calling a new Twain enthusiast a bot **is bullying** and I have contacted the list owner to shut this down. If you have some burning questions about my identity, for whatever reason, you can contact me off the list.

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 7:00 PM <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I don’t think anyone is "bullying" you.  I do think you should realize 
> that when you post a piece of language you say was written by an AI 
> program, you leave yourself open to more scrutiny and questioning than 
> a person who merely posts a fact or an opinion about Twain.
>
> Think about it.  If an AI program can write the bit of fake Twain 
> prose it could also write all the posts we see written by DM Sataari.  
> It's not bullying you to wonder about who you really are.  I wonder 
> about it, but only out of curiosity, not any ill will.  You have, 
> probably unwittingly, opened yourself up to people wondering if you are a Turing test.
>
> In case you are wondering, it was your claim to have entered into your 
> AI program all of Twain's personal information that set me to wondering.
> There are scholars on this list who have spent most of their 
> professional lives studying Mark Twain but I doubt any of them would 
> claim to have ALL of his personal information, never mind have the 
> time to enter it into a computer program.
>
> I wish you well, person or bot.
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of DM Sataari
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2023 6:18 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: the unbearable lightness of Sataari
>
> I don't get what you're saying? I'm a different person from this Twain 
> list? This is baffling to me, I don't know what I did to excite such 
> scrutiny, or why a new Twain enthusiast would get bullied on this list.
>
> The moderator of this list has already requested people to take 
> personal conversations which are unrelated to scholarly discussions 
> about Twain off the list. You can contact me directly if you want to 
> discuss my identity or anything of the sort.
>

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