In response to Fadhel and others, if you deny that there is a logic that   
transcends ideology -- a logic that exists regardless of ideology and   
that can be employed to evaluate arguments for this and that on the   
basis solely on whether they will help accomplish a given goal -- there   
is no point in having a discussion. Upon what criterion could one judge   
whether a point made by one party or the other is more correct, valid,   
etc.? One might as well simply pass gas or play tic tac toe.  
  
Sure, the founders of economics were European and perhaps Eurocentric.   
The founder of the theory of relativity was also European and perhaps   
Eurocentric. But what does this have to do with the price of eggs? Was   
Einstein a genius in Jewish physics?  
  
And I don't buy the argument that because economics is a social or a   
human science, it necessarily is value laden. The data about human   
beings can be treated just as objectively as the data of physics,   
although a different method must be used.  
  
Pat Gunning