The man is the film bringing the hat is not Grumman, I have a number of
photos of him with Ralph Ashcroft fooling around on the Lobster Pot Patio.
Grumman was fairer haired and slight. Grumman was the first librarian of
the Mark Twain Library
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In a message dated 9/9/2013 10:27:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I vaguely recall that Barb Schmidt and I played with this a few years
back,
but I don't recall the result.
There was a tall thin stenographer on premises (William E. Grumman, who
appears in one group photo taken in the library; he was hired in Feb or
March 1909 by Lyon). The butler was Claude Beuchotte. I don't think it was
Claude. Another butler?
Kevin
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arianne" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: The only known MT film footage
> Just read an account of Twain's butler today and it was said HE
> was the one in the video. So frustrating. I'm going over to youtube and
> see if I can see an unflipped video.
>
> I guess we should be happy there is any video at all of anybody there
> then.
> Arianne Laidlaw
> Sacramentol
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Kevin Mac Donnell <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> It's clearly Jean on the far right and Clara in the middle. It's a
>> handsome
>> young fellow with a shock of hair, not Ashcroft, who brings Clara her
>> hat.
>> It was filmed aiming the camera east toward the rear slope (toward
>> Redding)--the profile of a tree top between the columns matches a tree
>> seen
>> in other photos of that spot, besides some smaller details. I wonder if
>> the
>> hat-bringer was Ossip? I'll have to make some comparisons. He was
around
>> in
>> late 1909, at least until he and Clara left after their October
wedding.
>> I
>> have pre-1910 photos of him and he had a shock of hair like that before
>> male
>> pattern baldness set in. But not quite his profile at first glance.
>>
>> I have several versions of the film and at least one is not flipped. In
>> at
>> least one version on youtube, the tea-sipping scene is not flipped.
>> Besides
>> Twain's vest buttons, the window placements give it away as being
>> flipped.
>>
>> Although Jean and Isabel had once been cordial, they were not sipping
tea
>> together in late 1909 --Isabel had been fired in the Spring (April?) and
>> later "evicted" from the Lobster Pot. Read the newspaper accounts and
>> allegations being made at the time. Lots of high drama but no high teas.
>>
>> I have the original first Stormfield guestbook, and a good copy of the
>> second made by Twain's lawyer (the original is at Hartford), and I don't
>> recall any Edison crews being in those pages, but not everybody signed
>> the
>> guestbook(s) and they could be recorded merely as names with no
>> identification. I do think if Thomas Edison himself had shown up he
would
>> have been asked to sign the guestbook and his visit would have been
>> otherwise recorded, and he and Twain would likely have been filmed or at
>> least photographed together, like others of note who came to visit
>> (Keller,
>> Howells, Laura Hawkins Frazer, various angelfish, Paine, Coburn,
>> Henderson,
>> Whitmore, Eliz. Wallace).
>>
>> Kevin
>> @
>> Mac Donnell Rare Books
>> 9307 Glenlake Drive
>> Austin TX 78730
>> 512-345-4139
>> Member: ABAA, ILAB
>> *************************
>> You may browse our books at
>> www.macdonnellrarebooks.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arianne" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: The only known MT film footage
>>
>>
>> >I also read somewhere that the ladies at the table weren't Jean and
>> >Clara,
>> > but Jean and Isabel Lyon. Not sure which caption is correct. Please
>> > advise.
>> > Have you actually seen the correct movie? I didn't know one could be
>> > "flipped."
>> > Arianne Laidlaw
>> > Sacramento
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Kevin Mac Donnell <
>> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Interesting that this video is flipped just like the one on youtube,
>> >> and
>> >> it
>> >> makes me wonder who copied from whom, or if they share a common
flawed
>> >> source. I'm used to seeing flipped negatives on photos printed from
>> glass
>> >> plate negatives or modern repros, but I wonder how often an entire
>> >> video
>> >> of
>> >> that vintage has been flipped. It's no big deal that somebody messed
>> >> up
>> >> on
>> >> youtube, but too bad the Smithsonian got sloppy. They should fix it
>> >> just
>> >> to
>> >> be historically accurate, if they really give a hoot. In truth,
Twain
>> was
>> >> holding the cigar in his left hand not his right, and he was walking
>> >> around
>> >> from the "cellar side" of Stormfield rather than the "loggia side."
>> >> This
>> >> flipped film makes him appear left-handed since he's holding the
cigar
>> in
>> >> his right hand, and of course misrepresents the architecture of
>> >> Stormfield.
>> >> G-r-r-r-r-r...
>> >>
>> >> Kevin
>> >> @
>> >> Mac Donnell Rare Books
>> >> 9307 Glenlake Drive
>> >> Austin TX 78730
>> >> 512-345-4139
>> >> Member: ABAA, ILAB
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>> >> You may browse our books at
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>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Tony Verhulst" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:38 PM
>> >> Subject: The only known MT film footage
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > I've seen this before - we probably all have. But, I just ran
across
>> it
>> >> > again and thought is was worth posting.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/video/The-Only-Footage-of-Mark-Twain-in-Existence.html
>> >> >
>> >> > Tony
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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