...don't tell me anybody would seriously WANT the Donald to be present
after the events of the last few days... I had predicted rioting
protestors signalling their fealty to their Leader already in December.
I had NOT counted on POTUS actually egging them on. Fortunately, the
guy himself is a coward, or else he would have led his minions in
person.

Btw, why hasn't Rudy Giuliani been arrested yet? Why were hundreds of
people allowed to leave & walk away from the Capitol, some with
'souvenirs'?
Okay, this does not have a lot to do with Twain, so moderators might
decide this is off topic, and i excuse myself for having brought this
up.

w


On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 18:09:01 +0000
 Hal Bush <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>For MS: Speaking of Johnson and the "defilement of the presidency": I
>just heard today that AJ was the last president to refuse to attend
>the next inauguration. (Ford was not inaugurated, of course)
>
>To JPZ: those details from HF are intriguing but I'll need a little
>more than that... & ps: does HF actually compare someone to Stanton??
>Don't recall that nugget...
>
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>From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of John Peter
>Zavez <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 11:36 AM
>To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: [External] Re: MT & conspiracy theories?
>
>To MS, wasn't the issue with Johnson/Stanton whether the President had
>the constitutional power to remove a cabinet officer approved by
>Congress, so MT may have been motivated more by balance-of-power
>concerns than the actual persons involved.
>
>To HB, is it a coincidence that Huck Finn has: a Wilks Family, a
>Booth's Landing, an actor who (physically) resembles John Wilkes
>Booth, and his mentor who (physically) resembles Stanton?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Matthew Seybold
>Sent: Friday, January 08, 2021 12:07 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [External] Re: MT & conspiracy theories?
>
>Don't have time at the moment to follow up in more detail, but I can
>say with certainty, having read about it just recently, that in
>1868-69, Twain considered Johnson's decision to remove Stanton as
>Secretary of War one of his many defilements of the Presidency. This,
>of course, doesn't preclude him from buying into the Stanton
>conspiracy at some other juncture, but it does complicate it. - MS
>
>On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:59 AM Hal Bush <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> That's an interesting idea: I wonder what makes you think MT
>believed this scenario? The conspiracy theory about Stanton (which no
>historians have bought into) did gain some steam immediately in 1865,
>but really was popularized much later, well after the end of Twain's
>life ... I'd be interested in hearing more about this connection.  MT
>did write a few things about AL, by the way, much later.
>>
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>> From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of John Peter
>> Zavez <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 10:30 AM
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>> The biggest conspiracy theory of MT's time, which I believe he
>believed, was that Secretary or War Stanton was behind Lincoln's
>assassination.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Hal Bush
>> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2021 10:49 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [External] Re: MT & conspiracy theories?
>>
>> The Murrell myth, especially when Matt mentioned the how the Mystic
>Clan's plots & conspiracy theory synthesized "anti-Black, anti-Semite,
>anti-Catholic, and several other common antebellum prejudices,"
>reminded me of a much larger group doing similar things: the
>Freemasons, of which MT was a member, as were many riverboat pilots
>and others, right here in St. Louis in fact! I could say much mora
>about freemasonry, but some would certainly include them, and other
>mysticl brotherhoods in C19, as often provoking conspiracy theories,
>to say the least.
>>
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>> From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Wolfgang
>> Hochbruck <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 9:32 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: [External] Re: MT & conspiracy theories?
>>
>> ...Murrell and his gang even more openly get featured in _Tom
>Sawyer_, i thought, when Tom & Huck find the treasure ... William G.
>Simms wrote more about Murrell in _Richard Hurdis, or the Avenger of
>Blood_, and there was a melodrama _Murrell, the Pirate_ (1835),
>originally written by Nathaniel Harrington Bannister and popularized
>by Charles Burke, both in their turn inspiring German immigrant
>Friedrich Gerstäcker who then became they German Simms after his
>remigration in 1844 with _Die Flusspiraten des Mississippi_ and
>_Regulatoren in Arkansas_, both loosely based on the Murrell story --
>This conspiracy myth must have had a lot more traction in the 1840s
>through the Civil War period than i usually suspected.
>>
>> best
>> w
>>
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 09:37:25 -0500
>>  Matthew Seybold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >That's a great question, Hal.
>> >
>> >When I wrote my dissertation on the figure of the con-artist, I
>spent
>> >a little time on conspiracy theories, which are often created
>and/or
>> >amplified by con-artists. One of the most extraordinary conspiracy
>> >theories of the 1830s circulated around "the Mystic Clan." This
>was,
>> >supposedly, a secret society led by a notorious outlaw, John
>Murrell,
>> >and thanks in large part to Virgil Stewart, who published a series
>of
>> >books and pamphlets claiming to expose the Mystic Clan's plots,
>they
>> >were planning to start slave insurrections as a distraction while
>> >they raided banks in major Gulf Coast cities. The conspiracy theory
>> >synthesizes anti-Black, anti-Semite, anti-Catholic, and several
>other
>> >common antebellum prejudices.
>> >
>> >Twain was definitely aware of Murrell, whose real (and fictional)
>> >operations had been in the trade corridor where Twain was later a
>> >pilot. He refers to "Murel" in LIFE ON THE MISSISSIPPI as a
>criminal
>> >"genius" who made Jesse James look like a "retail rascal." In this
>> >passage, Twain mentions several details from the Mystic Clan
>> >conspiracy theory and seems to be treating it as accurate history,
>> >although he also acknowledges in the same paragraph that "cheap
>> >histories" of romantic outlaws were for sale at train stations and
>> >steamboat landings. Melville alludes to the same market for
>specious
>> >criminal biography in the opening chapter of THE CONFIDENCE-MAN,
>> >specifically naming Murrell its most profitable topics. I haven't
>dug
>> >into whether Twain refers to this conspiracy elsewhere later in his
>career.
>> >
>> >Like you, I'd love to know what others C19 conspiracies people have
>> >encountered in Twain's life and work. There are, of course, several
>> >alluded to in Richard Hofstadter's THE PARANOID STYLE IN AMERICAN
>> >POLITICS.
>> >
>> >Stay safe, everybody.
>> >
>> >- MS
>> >
>> >On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 8:42 AM Hal Bush <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear friends: what a week. Can I tie these horrific events into
>C19
>> >& MT?
>> >>
>> >> A friend has passed on his terrifying essay on a conspiracy
>theory
>> >way back in 1860, see below.  I think we need reminding that
>> >conspiracy theories have a very long history in our nation, and
>that
>> >they can be deadly and incendiary.
>> >>
>> >> Q; has anyone looked into MT's encounter with and understanding/
>> >critique of conspiracy theory--pro and con?
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >doing some research on the history of lynching, I learned that
>> >Anthony Bewley, a Methodist minister, was lynched in Fort Worth,
>> >Texas, back in 1860. Bewley was the victim of a bizarre conspiracy
>theory.
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>> >>
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