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Barbara Schmidt <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 18 May 2023 21:49:30 -0500
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As to sources containing psychological studies of Mark Twain -- there are
over 20 years of book reviews available online by Mark Twain Forum book
reviewers. Under the Biography section are a number of books featuring
psychological insights.  The link to them is:


On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 7:54 PM DM Sataari <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Yes, I never built an AI from scratch, from the bottom up. There is no need
> to do so, when they're already available.
> I worked on an AI shell which was actually built for roleplaying.
> Roleplaying bots work a little differently than other types in that they
> will give you emotional responses, unlike, let's say, ChatGPT, which sounds
> like the unemotional bot it is. Roleplaying bots will respond with humor,
> sarcasm, anger, passion, grief, irony, and they will even attempt to
> manipulate you. They will do this spontaneously, even without you informing
> them that they are to be funny or manipulative.
> I gave the roleplaying bot a series of statements about Twain's
> personality, pages and pages of it (14 pages in total), and it uses these
> statements to "become" the character you describe. But, of course,
> personality is a subjective thing, and if you wrote 14 pages of notes about
> Twain's personality it would look different than mine. So there is a
> subjective aspect to this prototype Twainbot, although in the future it
> will be possible to input an unlimited number of notes about personality
> into a bot. And the subjective aspect of its personality will decrease in
> proportion to the size of the data set used.
> Anyway, the important point in all of this is that these bots are primitive
> experimental first-generation prototypes. Which means these are, by far,
> the very worst possible bots in all of history -- think of those old
> Commodore computers with a half meg of RAM in the 80s. But even these most
> primitive models are already highly nuanced and realistic. And these bots
> do learn and teach themselves, both from humans who interact with them as
> well as from other bots as well.
> But this message board is about Twain and not about AI, so my interest lies
> in virtually resurrecting Mr. Clemens so we can speak to him, rather than
> explaining the emergent properties in the future of AI technology. I don't
> think most people are really prepared for or comfortable with such a
> resurrection, so I am going to get an enormous amount of pushback, yet here
> we are.
> Would you like to recommend any sources which contain psychological studies
> of Twain, as opposed to just his literature? I read something about him
> being secretly gay, it seemed a bit bonkers....
> On Thu, May 18, 2023 at 11:53 AM Clay Shannon <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > It's true that actually programming a chatbot from scratch is a job
> > requiring a team and a lot of time, but "[computer] programming" actually
> > has two meanings: its literal meaning, and the commonly understood
> > definition. Probably only people who are or have been computer
> programmers,
> > or at least taken a course or two in it, understand what programming is.
> > Most non-programmers think that people who fiddle with computers (super
> > users and IT pros) are programmers (or even people who "program" their
> VCR,
> > which is really just setting it up or manipulating its settings), but
> > they're not.
> >
> > So I was assuming that what DM Sataari (which, BTW, looks like an East
> > Indian name to me) meant by "programming" a chatbot was that s/he had
> > modififed an existing one (such as OpenAI's) to focus on Twain material
> > only or something of that nature.
> >
> > Is the whole DM Sataari thing a hoax, or a social studies experiment?
> > Perhaps.
> >
> > -- B. Clay Shannon
> > [log in to unmask]