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There is no strict evidence why Chicago rejected Hayek.

It is even less supported that Knight played a role in rejecting Hayek.

As far as I know there are several letters between Hayek and Knight, full
of reciprocal respect. I also consider Frank Knight not the kind of
scholar who could equal scientific dissent and personal hostility. Even if
Knight had a strong opinion of Hayek's capital theory as a true mess, I am
confident that he would not act to reject Hayek from the Department. But
there a no strong evidences, as far as I know.

On the contrary it is evident both that Knight had a negative opinion on
Friedman and that Hayek and Knight cooperated within Nef's Committee on
Social Thought.


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Il giorno 09/05/11 16.01, "mason gaffney" <[log in to unmask]> ha
scritto:

>One reason, perhaps the major reason, why Chicago rejected Hayek is
>Knight and Stigler's sustained crusade against the concept of a "period
>of production". Eight of Knight's many essays on this are cited in Hayek,
>1936, "The Mythology of Capital", QJE L:199-228. To hit the same topic 8
>times in 6 years, 1931-36, indicates it was a high priority with Knight.
>See also Stigler's laudatory essay on Knight in The New Palgrave.
>
>Mason Gaffney
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Societies for the History of Economics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Robert Leeson
>Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:17 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [SHOE] RVW -- Diamond on Emmett, ed., _The Elgar Companion
>to the Chicago School of Economics _
>
>With respect to the reason why the Economics Department at the University
>of Chicago refused to accept Hayek: Milton Friedman told Bruce Caldwell
>(2000) ³My understanding is that this was because, at that stage, he
>really wasnıt doing any economics.² (There may also have been some
>resistance to outside pressure). It appears that the location doubts
>(which side of the Popperian demarcation line?) post-date Hayek's fifth
>floor location.  
>
>Friedman (in print, at least) concluded that the Austrian business cycle
>model was dangerous "nonsense" in 1964, after Hayek left Chicago
>(Monetary Studies of the National Bureau, The National Bureau Enters Its
>45th Year, 44th Annual Report, 7-25; Reprinted in Friedman, 1969, The
>Optimum Quantity of Money and Other Essays, Chicago: Aldine).
>
>In an interview with David Levy, Arnold Harberger (1999) observed ³a
>great difference in focus between Hayek (the Austrians) and Chicago as a
>whole. I really respect and revere those guys. I am not one of them, but
>I think I once said that if somebody wants to approach economics as a
>religion, the Austrian approach is about as good as you can get.²
>
>Friedman also reflected on the ³so-called Austrians, or von Misesians Š
>Because their philosophy which admits no role whatsoever for empirical
>evidence‹itıs entirely introspective‹leads to an attitude of human
>intolerance. I think anybody who holds that methodological view either is
>to begin with, or ultimately becomes, an intolerant human being. And the
>reason is very simple. If you and I disagree about a proposition, the
>question is how do we resolve our difference? If we adopt a Misesian
>methodological point of view, the only way we can resolve our difference
>is by arguing with one another. I know it from whatıs inside me, you know
>it from whatıs inside you, and so you have to persuade me that Iım wrong,
>or I have to persuade you that Iım right. There is no other appeal. And
>so ultimately we have to get to fighting Š thatıs why I think that their
>praxeological philosophy leads to intolerance. Youıll notice that Mises
>himself was a highly intolerant person. Ayn Rand was a highly intolerant
>person. As heıs become older, Popper has become an intolerant person."
>
>Friedman believed that Chicago semi-rescued Hayek from intolerance:
>"Hayek is a very interesting case, because I think Chicago in particular
>had a sufficient influence on him so as to move him away and he is not
>nearly as intolerant as the other von Misesians. Same thing was true of
>Fritz Machlup, who was another disciple of von Mises, but neither of them
>were anything like as intolerant as von Mises himself. But this crew of
>people down at the Mises Institute [at Auburn University] Š Theyıre just
>as intolerant a bunch as you can find. A coin has two sides. Von Misesı
>greatness as an economist, his extraordinary influence on a wide range of
>followers, the hero-worship he attracted ‹ all these derived from his
>inflexible honesty, with the ³inflexible² element as important as the
>³honesty² element. But the other side of that coin was intransigence,
>even dogmatism, that bordered on intolerance for anyone who did not
>wholly agree with him."
>
>There is also the related issue of the association between the mental
>illness which afflicted that generation of Austrians and their
>intolerance (and in some instances hysteria). Economists are not trained
>to express a professional judgement on such matters. But it was a tragedy
>that Mises and Henry Simons (a fellow libertarian) were not apparently
>adequately diagnosed.  Hayek, of course, blamed his own lengthy illness
>on medical misdiagnosis.
>
>Does the self-appointed role of Defenders of Civilisation legitimise the
>argumentum ad hominem fallacy that some Austrians embrace (and which
>should be enough to exclude them from scientific discourse)?  Does it
>also legitimise the expression of anger and intolerance which - according
>to Margrit Mises (1984, 36) - had nothing to do Defending Civilisation
>but was instead caused by mental illness?
>    
>Robert Leeson 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Horwitz" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Sunday, 8 May, 2011 5:53:12 AM
>Subject: Re: [SHOE] RVW -- Diamond on Emmett, ed., _The Elgar Companion
>to the Chicago School of Economics _
>
>
>
>
>To add to Robertıs point:  Hayekıs appointment at Chicago was to the
>Committee on Social Thought precisely because the Economics department
>didnıt wish to hire him, presumably because he was seen as insufficiently
>³scientific² for them.  At least thatıs the story.  Whatever the reason,
>it certainly suggests, aside from the very important differences between
>Hayekıs approach and that of the Chicago School that can be gleaned from
>even a cursory look at Hayekıs work, the Chicagoans apparently didnıt
>consider him one of them.
>
>  
>
>Steve Horwitz 
>
>  
>
>
>
>From: Societies for the History of Economics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of Robert Nadeau
>Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 12:21 PM
>To: [log in to unmask] 
>Subject: Re: [SHOE] RVW -- Diamond on Emmett, ed., _The Elgar Companion
>to the Chicago School of Economics _
>
>  
>
>One should not assume, as Prof. Diamond does, that F.A. Hayek was ever a
>formal member of the Chicago School of Economics.
>
>Robert Nadeau 
>
>
>Le 11-05-06 22:38, Ğ Robert Leeson ğ < [log in to unmask] > a écrit :
>
>The words "more complete, measured, and rigorously developed synthesis"
>should not be applied to Overtveldt's error-ridden hagiography.
>
>Robert Leeson 
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bradley R. Turner" < [log in to unmask] >
>To: [log in to unmask] 
>Sent: Saturday, 7 May, 2011 8:35:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [SHOE] RVW -- Diamond on Emmett, ed., _The Elgar Companion
>to the Chicago School of Economics _
>
>For a more complete, measured, and rigorously developed synthesis, see
>The Chicago School: How the University of Chicago Assembled the Thinkers
>who Revolutionized Economics and Business (2007), by Johan Van
>Overtveldt. 
>
>
>Friedman, on the cover, describes it as "Thorough and extraordinarily
>well informed." 
>
>
>
>On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Humberto Barreto < [log in to unmask] >
>wrote: 
>
>
>------ EH.NET BOOK REVIEW ------
>Title: The Elgar Companion to the Chicago School of Economics
>
>Published by EH.NET (May 2011)
>
>Ross B. Emmett, editor, /The Elgar Companion to the Chicago School of
>Economics/. Cheltenham, UK: Edward Elgar, 2010. xi + 350 pp. $200
>(hardcover), ISBN: 978-1-84064-874-4
>
>Reviewed for EH.Net by Arthur M. Diamond, Jr., Department of Economics,
>University of Nebraska at Omaha.
>
>The Chicago School of economics has been described in a variety of ways.
>In 
>the current volume, a useful description is given in the essay of Bruce
>Kaufman who emphasizes ³... a deep commitment to rigorous scholarship and
>open academic debate, an uncompromising belief in the usefulness and
>insight 
>of neoclassical price theory, and a normative position that favors and
>promotes economic liberalism and free markets²  (p. 133).
>
>The volume has been edited by Ross Emmett, a Michigan State historian of
>economic thought whose previous research has focused on early Chicago
>economist Frank Knight.  About two-thirds of the volume consists of
>fifteen 
>³Essays on the Chicago School² in Part 1.  The remaining third of the
>volume, in Part 2, consists of nineteen brief profiles of ³Some Chicago
>Economists.² 
>
>The only essay that attempts any kind of broad overview of the volume is
>Emmettıs four-page introduction.  His essay briefly establishes the
>historical context of the Chicago School and points us toward some of the
>earlier literature in the history of economic thought that discusses the
>Chicago School.  But it does not attempt to summarize the diverse
>messages 
>of the essays of the volume, let alone try to synthesize these messages
>into 
>any overarching conclusions.
>
>Synthesis would have been difficult, if not impossible, because of the
>apparent absence of any consistent criteria for selection of the
>contents. 
>This volume appears to be opportunistic in the sense that the
>contributors 
>often were culled from those who attended conferences with the editor on
>the 
>Chicago School, and the editor has left the contributors considerable
>leeway 
>in the length, content and style of what they have contributed.  Emmett
>openly admits (p. 3) that some important topics have been left out of the
>³Essays² section of the volume.  But he does not identify the most
>glaring omission:  the contributions of George Stigler and his
>colleagues, 
>such as Brozen, Demsetz and Peltzman, to industrial organization and the
>economics of regulation.
>
>Most of the essays adopt a neutral, expository stance, reporting the main
>research contributions of various Chicago scholars on various topics.
>Some 
>of these essays are written by scholars with some connection to the
>Chicago 
>School, and some simply by scholars with an interest in the history of
>economic thought.  Among the expository essays, economic historians will
>especially appreciate David Mitchıs chronicle of Chicagoıs contributions
>to economic history, with some discussion of Earl Hamilton, and special
>attention to Fogel and McCloskey; and Hugh Rockoffıs extensive account of
>the genesis and findings of Friedman and Schwartzıs tour de force in /A
>Monetary History of the United States/.
>
>Some of the other expository essays are fairly detailed accounts of
>aspects 
>of the Chicago School, e.g., Daniel Hammondıs thorough account of
>Friedman 
>and Stiglerıs development of Chicago price theory; and Daniel Benjaminıs
>account of the three most important papers by Armen Alchian. Others paint
>with a broader brush, but provide useful overviews of their topics, e.g.,
>Steven Medemaıs account of the development of Chicago law and economics;
>H. 
>Spencer Banzhafıs account of the development of Chicago welfare
>economics; 
>and Gordon Bradyıs account of the Chicago School ³roots² of the
>Virginia School that was James Buchananıs early intellectual home.
>
>Parts of Eric Schliesserıs essay are less expository and more tendentious
>-- implying that Milton Friedman was indirectly responsible for the worst
>that Pinochet did in Chile.  When Schliesserıs essay was earlier
>presented 
>to the American Economic Association, Deirdre McCloskey powerfully and
>persuasively defended Friedman.  Part of McCloskeyıs defense was her
>report of a Chicago economics faculty meeting she attended, where
>Friedman 
>had successfully argued for turning down funding that had been offered to
>the 
>department from a repressive regime.  But in this volume, Schliesserıs
>critique of Chicago is left unanswered.  The volume would have been
>better 
>if it had included both sides.
>
>Nineteen economists are included in the profiles of the ³Some Chicago
>Economists² part of the volume.  The basis for selecting the nineteen is
>not obvious.  If we limit ourselves to economists who fit Kaufmanıs
>description of the Chicago School, then it is hard to understand the
>absence 
>of Nobel-Prize-winning Chicago economists Milton Friedman (yes, /Milton
>Friedman/ is absent), Robert Lucas, James Heckman, James Buchanan, Robert
>Mundell, Merton Miller and Robert Fogel.  And if we adopt a broader
>concept 
>of the Chicago School, as Emmett seems to do when he includes Paul
>Douglas 
>among his nineteen, then it is also hard to understand the absence of
>Thorstein Veblen (an early editor of Chicagoıs /Journal of Political
>Economy/), and F.A. Hayek.
>
>The profiles that are included often have useful information.  But much
>of 
>importance is omitted, sometimes due to the brevity of the profiles, and
>sometimes due to the agendas of the profile authors. The four pages on
>George 
>Stigler, for instance, focus primarily on his biography, who he
>associated 
>with, and a selection of his political views; but give scant attention to
>his 
>wit, his erudition, and his contributions to research, especially in the
>area 
>of the history of economic thought.  And to make matters worse, the
>bibliography to the profile neglects to reference key works that do focus
>mainly on Stiglerıs research.  (The Wikipedia entry on Stigler does a
>better job.) 
>
>But on the other hand, it was good to see Evelyn Forgetıs profile of
>Margaret Reid included in ³Some Chicago Economists.²  When I was a
>graduate student at Chicago, Reid had been long retired, but she still
>regularly attended Beckerıs workshop, and still pursued her research.  In
>those days, graduate students would spend long hours at the computer
>center 
>with their decks of IBM punch cards, to wait their turn to run their
>regressions on the mainframe.  And it did not entirely escape our
>attention 
>that Margaret Reid was there too, with her deck of cards, waiting her
>turn. 
>Her presence and her persistence taught us something about the values of
>the 
>Chicago School --something that Klamer and Colander would later reconfirm
>in 
>their interviews with graduate students in /The Making of an Economist/.
>At 
>Chicago, economic research was not just some puzzle-solving game by which
>you 
>earned your living; not something you retired from; economics was a
>calling 
>that mattered. 
>
>References: 
>
>Friedman, Milton, and Anna Jacobson Schwartz. / A Monetary History of the
>United States, 1867-1960/, NBER Studies in Business Cycles.  Princeton:
>Princeton University Press, 1963.
>
>Klamer, Arjo, and David Colander. / The Making of an Economist/.
>Boulder, 
>CO: Westview Press, 1990.
>
>Arthur M. Diamond Jr. received three graduate degrees from the University
>of 
>Chicago, and was a Post-Doctoral Fellow in economics at the University.
>He 
>has recently published several papers related to Schumpeterıs process of
>creative destruction and is at work on a book entitled /Openness to
>Creative 
>Destruction/. [log in to unmask] .
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