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Robert Leeson <[log in to unmask]>
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With respect to the "maelstroem in 1938": Mises' papers were taken by the Nazis and the Bohm-Bawerk scholar, Ludwig Bettelheim-Gabillon, was send to a concentration camp were he perished - which other Austrian economists were targeted?

RL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles CAMPAGNOLO" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:48:08 PM
Subject: Re: [SHOE] History of microeconomics?

Dear all, 
dear Roy,

Naturally, this is so, and I did not mean to leave Duke aside from the list I was asked to submit. Apologies if understood otherwise. But as this piece of conversation started about emil Kauder, and as Kauder had made his research work in Japan, I quoted the Japanese source. The other archive being Duke, where what Karl the son brought to the US ended up, thanks to your own efforts among other things that you do not mention, but we all know. Thanks also to Bruce Caldwell work, and I will not start here mentioning my revered colleagues, as this was not the point in discussion when Bradley Bateman sent his request.

Well, that being said, the annotations on the books that Menger the father himself owned and which are in Japan are just as much (I will not pronounce more) informative as the archives that the son could save from the European maelstroem in 1938. All in all, and for having consulted quite at length both sites, as you well know, I would say that they are supplementary and that the need for using both of them is real and this task recommended to any Menger scholar. That is actually something that I hope I will have the chance to do again at Duke some time in the future - well, after taking vacations and European limited funding resources permitting...

With best regards and wishes of a nice summer,
Gilles Campagnolo

> ----------------------------------------
> From: E. Roy Weintraub <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tue Jul 17 19:22:04 CEST 2012
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [SHOE] History of microeconomics?
> 
> 
> Actually, Carl and Karl Menger's papers are at Duke University. Carl
> Menger's books ended up in Japan.
> See http://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/menger/
> and see http://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/mengerkarl/
> See also Bruce Caldwell's
> http://www.dukeupress.edu/Catalog/ViewProduct.php?productid=934&viewby=series&categoryid=27&sort=newest
> 
> 
> which was the first HOPE Conference, and was based on the then arrival at
> Duke of the Carl Menger papers, gifted to Duke by his granddaughter.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Gilles CAMPAGNOLO <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Dear all,
> >
> > About Emil Kauder: Not only a very good article: Emil Kauder, the emigrant
> > from Austria to Illinois, and indefatigable researcher for the sake of
> > utility theories, was the seminal author in the (re)discovery of Carl
> > Menger's archives in Japan. See his other texts, relating the origins of
> > the Austrian school and Menger's reading of Aristotle, based on his
> > campaign of exploration of the archives at Hitotsubashi University (Japan)
> > in 1959-1960. However, Kauder had not finished the job and a few Japanese
> > scholars, as well as myself, have completed this task in our publications
> > respectively.
> >
> > The point is that, without that assessment of utility theory in Menger's
> > archives the history of utility theory would remain incomplete. Kauder's
> > work is to be praised for initiating that task.
> >
> > Regards to the whole community and a nice summer,
> > Gilles Campagnolo
> > Full Research Professor, French National Center for Scientific Research
> > Senior Member, Aix-Marseilles School of Economics
> >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > > From: Lilia Costabile <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Tue Jul 17 07:42:09 CEST 2012
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: [SHOE] History of microeconomics?
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a very good article, I think.
> > > Regards
> > > Lilia Costabile
> > >
> > > E. Kauder, Genesis of the marginal utility theory: from Aristotele to
> > the end of the eighteenth century, «Economic journal», 1953, 63, 251, pp.
> > 638-50.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16/lug/2012, at 21.17, Martin Kragh wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just a short note. The terms micro economics, macro economics and
> > econometrics were used by Ragnar Frisch in the early 1930s already. See his
> > Propagation problems and impulse problems in dynamic economics published in
> > Essays in honour of Gustav Cassel 1933.
> > > >
> > > > The term macro economy was used by Erik Lindahl even earlier. I am not
> > sure how wide spread the term was.
> > > >
> > > > Kindly
> > > > Martin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 16 jul 2012 kl. 19:10 skrev "Nicholas Theocarakis" <[log in to unmask]
> > >:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I suspect that there is no book on the history of microeconomics for
> > a reason. [The book cited is about Jules Dupuit]. Microeconomics is a term
> > coined in the 40s [Econometrica 1943 according to OED] in contradistinction
> > to macroeconomics.  Before that distinction the term for microeconomics
> > proper was "price theory".  In a sense, however, the history of
> > microeconomics is the history of neoclassical economic theory. The
> > epistemological principle of methodological individualism dictates so.
> >  After the "return of the clones" [representative agent, microfoundations,
> > etc.], the case for macro as a special case of a reductionist micro is more
> > pronounced.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Manuela Mosca <
> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >> You could try
> > > >>
> > > >> Ekelund and Hebert, Secret Origins of Modern Microeconomics, The
> > > >> University of Chicago Press, 1999.
> > > >>
> > > >> Manuela
> > > >>
> > > >> > Dear all
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I've been trying to find an overview history of microeconomics, but
> > with
> > > >> > not much luck. Does anybody have any tips?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > All the best
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Bob
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Manuela Mosca
> > > >> Universita' del Salento - Dipartimento di Scienze dell'Economia
> > > >> Universita' di Bologna - Dipartimento di Scienze Economiche
> > > >> website: http://www.dsems.unile.it/mosca/index.htm
> > > >> ssrn author page:
> > > >> http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=352869
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> E. Roy Weintraub
> Professor of Economics
> Fellow, Center for the History of Political Economy
> Duke University
> www.econ.duke.edu/~erw/erw.homepage.html

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