Could someone tell me where I can locate Pareto's reference to socialist leaders as an “aristocracy of brigands”.

Thanks

RL 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan G Isaac" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 1:46:02 PM
Subject: Re: [SHOE] allusion to Pareto

On 7/21/2012 12:28 PM, Crmccann wrote:
> You are missing the point.
> An ideological affinity is distinct from the essence of a "school" or a "movement.


You have not persuaded me.
If you would answer some questions,
it would be helplful.

Are you are or you not claiming that to be a
"progressive" during the progressive era one
needed to favor eugenics -- let us be specfic
and say, in the form of forced sterilization?

If not, then what "ideological affinity" are you pointing
to among the progressives, relevant to the issue
of eugenics?  Keeping in mind the widespread support
for eugenics (of various stripes) at the time, how
does this help us understand progressives (as opposed
to the many other supporters)?

Further, if we find that conservative social
elites and progressive social elites were all drawn
to the popular science of the day (i.e., eugenics),
what makes it interesting to emphasize that
progressives were susceptible rather than that
elites were susceptible?

Finally, it would be really helpful if you would
say whether you are using categories that a so
flexible that it would allow you to say that
Irving Fisher or Paul Popenoe were "progressives"
because of an "ideological affinity" they shared
with others who advocated eugenics. Or, contrary-
wise, does it become interesting to ask what aspect
of their conservatism led them to support eugenics?
Or what?

If you can give some kind of coherent response to
this, I will certainly learn something.

Thanks,
Alan Isaac