Dear Daniela
I sent you and Rob Tye separately some LONG notes on this subject -
much too long to impose on this list. Here are some relevant excerpts.
1423 -28 Flor Ves:46 war
Milan under Visconti forces war on Florence, which finally beats them back,
aided by Venice which sought to maintain balance of power.
1425, to prosecute this war, Florence raised its estimo, and prestanze.
1427, reformed the tax. New tax called catasto, meaning list. (Cf.
cadaster.) It was on net worth. It was "broader" and included bank assets.
Income property was capitalized at 7%.
[This suggests spec l.v. were excluded. This followed including contado
lands, outside city walls, in the base. Could be a compromise.]
P.53, 40% of catasto value was real property. Residences were exempt.
Veseth is vague; consult his sources.
1425 Flor Ves:43
Florence starts its monte delli doti, a city fund to provide dowries for all
marriageable girls. Both pro-natalist and egalitarian.
1426 Flor Young:34 tax
Giovanni de Bicci de' Medici, the original Medici, puts across the catasto,
a regular tax to replace an irregular poll-tax which had gone before, which
nobles evaded. Nobles had to pay catasto. So did de Bicci, but he believed
in it.
This happened during war v. Milan, 1423-28. Thus, French taille (1439) and
Florentine catasto (1426) were both wartime measures. Did France learn from
Florence?
The tax soon became progressive, the rate structure being named "la scala".
Mason Gaffney
-----Original Message-----
From: Societies for the History of Economics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Parisi Daniela Fernanda
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 2:03 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [SHOE] R: [SHOE] risk and Far East philosophy/economics
I asked for an axplanation about the concept of 'democracy' you are
referring to.
Thanks,
Daniela
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Societies for the History of Economics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Per conto
di mason gaffney
Inviato: marted́ 30 ottobre 2012 02:11
A: [log in to unmask]
Oggetto: Re: [SHOE] risk and Far East philosophy/economics
Rob,
I do not find the message from Daniela to which you refer - or any
message later than 2010. Computers do weird things up in the clouds. Please
forward said message to me for comment.
Lest I be guilty of overparticipating, I will not wander into
Cromwell or the Pilgrims. They lead us away from the original issues.
Mason
-----Original Message-----
From: Societies for the History of Economics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Rob Tye
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 2:25 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [SHOE] risk and Far East philosophy/economics
Mason
My admittedly sarcastic recent response was not prompted by Veseth's agenda,
but rather the agenda you sketched yourself, in his name.
With regard to that, Daniela's question to you, regarding your supposed
early Medici "democracy", remains unanswered.
Regarding your "alienated proles", do you hold the opinion that Savanarola's
agenda can be dismissed as a blip? Would you distinguish it from that of
say Cromwell, or the Pilgrim Fathers?
Rob Tye, York, UK
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