Sudha Shenoy digitized the *Fatal Conceit* and Hayek’s (pre-Bartley) *Law, Legislation and Liberty* and asked her University of Newcastle colleague John Burrows to undertake a comparative stylistic analysis in order to delineate Bartley’s influence.
Shenoy provided Bruce Caldwell (*Hayek's Challenge* 2004, 317, n34) with an alleged empirical discovery: “Shenoy summarises Burrows’s findings as follows: ‘The results showed a definite divergence, i.e. some other hand definitely played a clear part in the published text of FC’.”
Burrows and his research assistant have confirmed that they “conducted no tests for her [Shenoy] and reached no findings, tentative or otherwise.”
(Leeson 2013, p202 *Archival Insights into the Evolution of Economics Volume 5: Hayek: a Collaborative Biography Part 1 Influences, From Mises to Bartley*. Basingstoke, England: Palgrave Macmillan).
Full reply when I next access the archives (Off-list reminders welcome).
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I would be appreciative of Robert Leeson giving complete citations for his alleged Hayek and Shenoy quotations. Sudha Shenoy was the daughter of prominent Indian economist Bellikot Shenoy, and an economic historian on the faculty of the University of Newcastle in Australia for many years. I knew her personally and what I have read of her works shows careful scholarship. I wouldn't expect Hayek to include her among disliked "Bengali moneylender sons," if that quotation can be trusted. She did, after all, edit and contribute an introduction to Hayek's 1972 A Tiger by the Tail: The Keynesian Legacy of Inflation while he was very much above ground and still doing active scholarship.
Samuel Bostaph, Ph.D.
Professor Emeritus of Economics
University of Dallas
"Government, taught Hume, is always government of the many by the few. Power is therefore always ultimately on the side of the governed, and the governors have nothing to support them but opinion.The struggle for freedom is ultimately not resistance to autocrats or oligarchs but resistance to the despotism of public opinion.--Ludwig von Mises
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:00 AM, Robert Leeson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Sudha Shenoy reported an empirical discovery, allegedly provided to her by John Burrows, Director of the Centre for Literary and Linguistic Computing: "The results showed a definite divergence, i.e. some other hand definitely played a clear part in the published text of FC [Hayek's *Fatal Conceit The Errors of Socialism*].”
Burrows confirms: "We conducted no tests for her and reached no findings, tentative or otherwise."
Leeson, R. 2013. Archival Insights into the Evolution of Economics Volume 5: Hayek: a Collaborative Biography Part 1 Influences, From Mises to Bartley. Basingstoke, England: Palgrave Macmillan
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From: "Mario Rizzo" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 13 May, 2014 10:43:43 PM
Subject: Re: [SHOE] History of Indian Economy?
What does the quotation from Hayek (I did not see this. Is this a
transcript, published work of Hayek or someone's memory of what he said????
I am not sure what.) have to do directly with Shenoy's history? Hayek could
not have disagreed with something Sudha wrote after his own death. And with
Sudha herself gone, we cannot ascertain what she believes Hayek thought of
her more generally.
I knew Sudha Shenoy and I remember her as a very careful scholar.
I guess this is more fun than grading exams or term papers at this time of
the year.
Mario Rizzo.
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Robert Leeson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Sudha Shenoy (2003), an LSE student and Hayek's first official biographer
> ('The Order of Liberty'), recommended a return to the unstable neo-feudal
> equilibrium (1815-1914) as the road to the Austrian future:
>
> "In the nineteenth century, you had for the first time a worldwide
> economic order. You had free trade, free movement of people, free movement
> of capital, a gold standard, falling prices in the latter part of the
> century, peaceful development, and no major wars between 1815 and 1914. The
> world’s armies and navies did not know what to do. Yes, there were
> aberrations like the American Civil War and the Franco-Prussian War, but
> mostly it was a period of peace. Forty million people moved peacefully
> because they wanted a better life. There were no expulsions, no wars, no
> genocides, nothing."
>
> Hayek was contemptuous of the intellectual quality and integrity of his
> disciples.
>
> Specifically: Shenoy “could not be trusted since she was only an Indian”
> (cited by Cubitt 2006, 344).
>
> Generally: "I don't have many strong dislikes. I admit that as a
> teacher--I have no racial prejudices in general--but there were certain
> types, and conspicuous among them the Near Eastern populations, which I
> still dislike because they are fundamentally dishonest. And I must say
> dishonesty is a thing I intensely dislike. It was a type which, in my
> childhood in Austria, was described as Levantine, typical of the people of
> the eastern Mediterranean. But I encountered it later, and I have a
> profound dislike for the typical Indian students at the London School of
> Economics, which I admit are all one type--Bengali moneylender sons. They
> are to me a detestable type, I admit, but not with any racial feeling. I
> have found a little of the same amongst the Egyptians--basically a lack of
> honesty in them" (Hayek 1978).
>
> "Levantine, typical of the people of the eastern Mediterranean"? Was Hayek
> referring to Jewish people?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Per L. Bylund" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 May, 2014 10:02:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [SHOE] History of Indian Economy?
>
> Sudha Shenoy was an Indian economic historian who wrote on, among other
> things, economic development and the British empire. She unfortunately
> passed away in 2008, but she wrote some very interesting stuff, and she of
> course covered the economic history of India.
>
> For more recent (20th century) Indian economic history, I know GP Manish
> (currently at Troy University) has published articles on the
> regulation/deregulation of markets as India gained independence.
>
>
> PLB
>
> __________________________________
> Per L. Bylund, Ph.D.
> Baylor University
>
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> Sent from my Microsoft Surface
>
> From: Justin Elardo<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:02 PM
> To: Societies for the History of Economics<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>
> Dear Shoe Colleagues,
>
> At the conclusion of my political economy class today one of my students
> asked me about the history of the Indian economy and inquired as to whether
> I could reference any specific economists whose area of specialization
> pertained to the history of the Indian economy. As India and the Indian
> economy are not my area of specialization, I was hard pressed to provide my
> student with a substantive answer, but I promised to ask.
>
> As such, are there any SHOE listserv followers that have knowledge about
> or are familiar with economists whose research pertains to the history of
> the Indian economy? Thank you in advance for your assistance in furthering
> the education of one of my students as well as myself.
>
> Best,
>
> Justin A. Elardo, PhD
> Portland Community College
>
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