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Pullman?  (company town, now part of Chicago, currently under discussion for 
designation as a National Park)

On 9/12/2014 2:10 PM, Mason Gaffney wrote:
> Good Grief, do you realize how many sites could qualify?
>
> There are several communities, for example, laid out and settled by followers of
> Henry George: Canberra, in Australia, for example; Fairhope, AL; Harvard, MA;
> Free Acres, NJ; etc.
>
> There are utopian colonies everywhere, many of which have grown beyond
> recognition: Salt Lake City, Anaheim, for example, and a dozen small cities in
> California: Patterson, Reedley, Solvang, Atascadero come to mind.
>
> In Lincoln, NE, there is a memorial to the Homestead Act.  On Euclid Ave. in
> southern California there is a statue to “The Madonna of the Trail”.
>
> There are memorials to noted socio-economic reformers all around: Mt. Rushmore,
> SD;  Altgeld’s statue in Chicago; Jefferson’s and Lincoln’s memorials in D.C.;
> T.R.’s summer white house on Sagamore Hill, L.I.; FDR’s memorial at Hyde Park.
>
> One of my favorites, a tiny one, is a statue at the corner of Sheridan Rd. and
> Lloyd Place in Winnetka, IL.  It was erected by Progressive muckraker Henry
> Demarest Lloyd, showing a homeless man huddled on a bench closing his collar
> against the cold and damp to survive the bitter night.
>
> On a vaster scale there are our National Parks, and scores of city and state
> parks, each one a memorial to some or many reformists (whether writers or not)
> who thought the land belongs to the people – all the people.  In Marin Cnty, CA,
> there is Muir Woods, gift of socially minded Wm. Kent in honor of John Muir.
>
> There are even some company towns, like Gary, IN, whose benefactors intended
> them to show the best side of benevolent capitalistic despotism.  Paul Samuelson
> and Joe Stiglitz both benefited from high quality education at Gary H.S.
>
> In Limoges there is a Turgot Avenue, and I surmise other memorials to that great
> economist.
>
> In Taipeh there are huge murals of Sun Yat-Sen all over town.
>
> One could go on and on.  But let us not think that a few early “Satanic Mills”
> exhaust the genus!
>
> Mason Gaffney
>
> *From:*Societies for the History of Economics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf
> Of *Malcolm Rutherford
> *Sent:* Friday, September 12, 2014 9:50 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [SHOE] Auchy-lès-Hedin and the History o f Economic Thought
>
> Thanks to Steve for this information about Say’s textile mill.
>
> Apart from New Lanark, which is well worth a visit, there are other sites of
> interest to HET people.  Adam Smith’s house in Edinburgh still stands (beside
> the Canongate Churchyard), although only the exterior remains from Smith’s
> time.  I believe the building is now owned by Heriot Watt University.  Also the
> von Thuenen estate still exists and houses a museum and puts on events. It is
> located in Tellow in Germany.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.thuenen-museum-tellow.m-vp.de/
>
> There may be others.
>
> Malcolm Rutherford.
>
> *From:*Societies for the History of Economics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf
> Of *Steve Kates
> *Sent:* September-12-14 1:36 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> *Subject:* [SHOE] Auchy-lès-Hedin and the History of Economic Thought
>
> So far as I can tell, aside from Robert Owen's New Lanark - which is now a World
> Heritage Site - there are no historic sites that one would associate with the
> study of economics. Yet there is, in fact, one that ought to be preserved in
> just the same way, both because of its association with one the greatest
> economists of all time and also because of its on-site interest as a place in
> which, even now, one can trace out the contours of the industrial revolution
> from the earliest years of the nineteenth century almost right down to the
> present. I refer here to the textile mill that was set up by Jean-Baptiste Say
> following his exile from Paris in 1805 at the hands of Napoleon.
>
> Auchy-lès-Hesdin is a small village, and to be quite technical about it, is
> found in the Pas-de-Calais department and Nord-Pas-de-Calais region of France.
> Say, who had been a journalist and writer, having refused to alter the text of
> his /Treatise/ to suit Napoleon's statist demands, went off to Auchy to start a
> textile mill. He went there because by the river sat an old abbey that had one
> specific feature, a waterfall which could be harnessed to run the machinery of
> the mill. The waterfall is still there, as are most of the buildings that were
> subsequently built on the site (but not the original abbey). These include the
> power plant that used to generate the steam when steam replaced water, and even
> more remarkably, an electric generator that was used even later that was driven
> by diverting the river past a water wheel.
>
> There is also the "Château Blanc", a massive three-storey house that Say
> commissioned to be built but which he never lived in since by 1813 he was able
> to return to Paris. There are also worker's cottages nearby which are still
> lived in. So what we find, if you will excuse my enthusiasm, is a kind of
> Versailles for economists. The buildings are falling apart but are still intact.
> There is restoration work going on and there seems to be a determination to save
> this site for posterity if it can be done. But having just been there myself, I
> cannot tell you just how extraordinary it is. We on this discussion thread have
> an interest in history, and this is a kind of living history of the industrial
> revolution that is also a place of great interest because of its association
> with J.-B. Say.
>
> At the moment, and I cannot tell you why, there is a collection of antique fire
> trucks housed in one of the buildings. But other possibilities are latent in how
> this site may be developed, including a museum for the history of economic
> thought. At the moment, there are some scattered artefacts associated with Say
> in place but things are at an early stage in thinking this through. I am off
> here in Australia but this is something that the European Society along with the
> UK Society should consider becoming closely involved with. And while it may not
> be politic to say it about a destination in France, as was pointed out by M.
> Zephyr Tilliette – who has written the history of Auchy and is an authority on
> all of this – the town lies midway between Azincourt and Crécy. It is also is a
> short drive from the Calais and Chunnel crossing points.
>
> If I may be allowed to say so, this is a place you should visit if you get the
> chance. The website I am told is coming, but in the meantime you can make
> arrangements to visit the site by phoning this number in Auchy: 06.45.49.59.29.
> You will not be disappointed.
>
> For some idea what you will find if you go, see this, which is an invitation to
> join J.-B. Say's Nexus, which is something you might also consider:
>
> http://says.univ-littoral.fr/?page_id=112
>
> And I would go one more step and also suggest that you might join the
> International Society Jean-Baptiste Say:
>
> http://says.univ-littoral.fr/
>
> I would emphasise here that in participating in both, neither is in any way an
> endorsement of Say’s Law. This is about Say and his pioneering work on
> entrepreneurship and the entrepreneur. It is also about one of the great early
> works on economics which is still worth reading today. It is thus one more
> reminder how studying the history of economic thought is of benefit in making
> sense of how an economy works.
>
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