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1919: Romanov-ennobled fascists - white terrorists - liquidate 100,000 Jews. Kenez, P. 1991. The Prosecution of Soviet History: A Critique of Richard Pipes' The Russian Revolution. Russian Review 50.3, July: 345-351. 

1925: "At the beginning of the war, or even during the war, if 12,000 or 15,000 of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to submit to poison gas ... then the millions of sacrifices made at the front would not have been in vain.” 

Hitler, A. 1939 [1925]. Mein Kampf. London: Hurst and Blackett.

1927: "It cannot be denied" that "fascists" - including "Ludendorff and Hitler" - will protect "civilisation" and "property". “The deeds of the Fascists and of other parties corresponding to them were emotional reflex actions evoked by indignation at the deeds of the Bolsheviks and Communists. As soon as the first flush of anger had passed, their policy took a more moderate course and will probably become even more so with the passage of time.” 

Mises, L. 1985 [1927]. Liberalism in the Classical Tradition. Irvington-on-Hudson, New York: Foundation for Economic Education. Translated by Ralph Raico. 

1934: Mises becomes a card-carrying Austro-Fascist and member of the official fascist social club: Hülsmann, J. G. 2007. Mises: The Last Knight of Liberalism. Auburn, Alabama: Ludwig von Mises Institute.

1940: The Last Knight of Liberalism leaves for neutral Manhattan; Hayek also makes plans to leave. 

1944: Omnipotent Government The Rise of the Total State and Total War (von Mises (2010 [1944], 188, 202): The British had an ‘ostrich policy in the face of the most serious situation that Britain ever had to encounter ...  It was all wishful thinking, refusing to take account of Hitler’s schemes as exposed in Mein Kampf.’

1975: Hayek informes a correspondent that he wished to find an alternative to his “gone negro” Chicago bank. 

1978: When asked what his “attitude to black people", Hayek told his appointed biographer "that he did not like ‘dancing Negroes’. He had watched a Nobel laureate [presumably Sir Arthur Lewis] doing so which had made him see the ‘the animal beneath the facade of apparent civilisation’” (Cubitt 2006, 23).

1980: When Cubitt (2006, 146, 51) asked Hayek “whether he felt comfortable about Jewish people he replied that he did not like them very much, any more than he liked black people.” Hayek peddled standard stereotypes about Jewish money-lenders.  

       
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Médaille" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, 22 May, 2014 12:30:44 AM
Subject: Re: [SHOE] The Hayek question

You might already have done this, but could you provide a source for these,
particularly the statements from 1925 and 27?

John


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Robert Leeson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 1. "I did find offensive the apparent suggestion that historians of
> economics might be qualified to diagnose mental disease".
>
> Deductively, the diagnosis was provided by an historian; the evidence
> suggests that it was not.
>
> 2. "von Mises brief praise of fascism".
>
> Deductively, this is a lapse "in moral judgment [which does] not
> immediately translate into general theoretical error."
>
> Hayek disliked Jews and non-whites, especially "the negro"; the
> Jewish-born Mises appears to have been prone to anti-Semitism (especially
> when confronted by dissent). Using chronology, rather than Miesean
> deductive logic, could Alan explain:
>
> 1919: Romanov-ennobled fascists - or white terrorists, as they were then
> known - liquidated 100,000 Jews.
>
> 1925: "At the beginning of the war, or even during the war, if 12,000 or
> 15,000 of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to
> submit to poison gas ... then the millions of sacrifices made at the front
> would not have been in vain.”
>
> 1927: "It cannot be denied" that "fascists" - including "Ludendorff and
> Hitler" - will protect "civilisation" and "property" (von Mises
> _Liberalism_ 1985 [1927]).
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan G Isaac" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 May, 2014 8:53:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [SHOE] The Hayek question
>
> On 5/20/2014 7:07 AM, Robert Leeson quoted:
> > Austrians have framed Friedman ("fascist"), Pigou
> > ("communist spy"), Phillips ("underground communist") and
> > Keynes (a “Godhating, principle-hating, State-loving
> > homosexual pervert”; Keynesians have “pushed the world
> > into evil, and therefore toward God’s righteous
> > judgment”).
>
>
> Are you proposing Gary North as a representative "Austrian"?
> I don't think his association with the Ludwig von Mises
> Institute, however regrettable it might be, earns him that
> honor.
>
> I largely agree with Eloy: the posted project outline struck
> my ears as a near-comical call for the promotion of ad
> hominem and guilt by association, not like a proposal for
> historical investigation.  Of course that may not be the
> project's intent; it may just reflect a desire to present it in
> a provocative and combative way.
>
> I would like to stress that I am not suggesting that a project
> that asks why cranks are attracted to certain kinds of ideas
> need be without merit, as long as there is no presumption that
> the attraction of cranks to an idea implies that it is
> a crank idea.  I also think that it can be reasonable to
> document the moral failings of a writer, especially one who
> seems to attract hagiography.  So I would not suggest that
> Hayek's involvement with Pinochet or von Mises brief praise
> of fascism are not fair topics for discussion, as long as
> the discussion acknowledges that lapses in moral judgment do
> not immediately translate into general theoretical error.
>
> Although I was mostly amused, I did find offensive the
> apparent suggestion that historians of economics might be
> qualified to diagnose mental disease, and the apparent
> implication that such diagnoses could shed light on the
> quality of theory produced by a mind.  It may be worth
> recalling that a very well-deserved "Nobel Prize in
> Economics" was awarded to a man whose struggles with serious
> mental illness are a matter of record.
>
> Cheers,
> Alan Isaac
>



-- 
John C. Médaille



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