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John Peter Zavez <[log in to unmask]>
Fri, 8 Jan 2021 18:27:44 +0000
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To HB, another clue -- use of sockdolager (with an "a") in HF, an odd choice and one MT must have known his audience would connect with the use of sockdologer (with an "o") in Our American Cousin.  And another -- look at the original HF illustrations which MT approved, and compare them with photographs of Stanton and JWB.  "Once is happenstance.  Twice is coincidence.  Three times is enemy action.  More than three times is ...........  Ignore DKG and DO NOT Your Fiercest Rivals in Your Cabinet.

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From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Hal Bush
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2021 1:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [External] Re: MT & conspiracy theories?

For MS: Speaking of Johnson and the "defilement of the presidency": I just heard today that AJ was the last president to refuse to attend the next inauguration. (Ford was not inaugurated, of course)

To JPZ: those details from HF are intriguing but I'll need a little more than that... & ps: does HF actually compare someone to Stanton?? Don't recall that nugget...



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From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of John Peter Zavez <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 11:36 AM
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: MT & conspiracy theories?

To MS, wasn't the issue with Johnson/Stanton whether the President had the constitutional power to remove a cabinet officer approved by Congress, so MT may have been motivated more by balance-of-power concerns than the actual persons involved.

To HB, is it a coincidence that Huck Finn has: a Wilks Family, a Booth's Landing, an actor who (physically) resembles John Wilkes Booth, and his mentor who (physically) resembles Stanton?

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From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Matthew Seybold
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2021 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [External] Re: MT & conspiracy theories?

Don't have time at the moment to follow up in more detail, but I can say with certainty, having read about it just recently, that in 1868-69, Twain considered Johnson's decision to remove Stanton as Secretary of War one of his many defilements of the Presidency. This, of course, doesn't preclude him from buying into the Stanton conspiracy at some other juncture, but it does complicate it. - MS

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 11:59 AM Hal Bush <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> That's an interesting idea: I wonder what makes you think MT believed this scenario? The conspiracy theory about Stanton (which no historians have bought into) did gain some steam immediately in 1865, but really was popularized much later, well after the end of Twain's life ... I'd be interested in hearing more about this connection.  MT did write a few things about AL, by the way, much later.
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> The biggest conspiracy theory of MT's time, which I believe he believed, was that Secretary or War Stanton was behind Lincoln's assassination.
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> From: Mark Twain Forum <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Hal Bush
> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2021 10:49 AM
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> The Murrell myth, especially when Matt mentioned the how the Mystic Clan's plots & conspiracy theory synthesized "anti-Black, anti-Semite, anti-Catholic, and several other common antebellum prejudices," reminded me of a much larger group doing similar things: the Freemasons, of which MT was a member, as were many riverboat pilots and others, right here in St. Louis in fact! I could say much mora about freemasonry, but some would certainly include them, and other mysticl brotherhoods in C19, as often provoking conspiracy theories, to say the least.
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> ...Murrell and his gang even more openly get featured in _Tom Sawyer_, i thought, when Tom & Huck find the treasure ... William G. Simms wrote more about Murrell in _Richard Hurdis, or the Avenger of Blood_, and there was a melodrama _Murrell, the Pirate_ (1835), originally written by Nathaniel Harrington Bannister and popularized by Charles Burke, both in their turn inspiring German immigrant Friedrich Gerstäcker who then became they German Simms after his remigration in 1844 with _Die Flusspiraten des Mississippi_ and _Regulatoren in Arkansas_, both loosely based on the Murrell story -- This conspiracy myth must have had a lot more traction in the 1840s through the Civil War period than i usually suspected.
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> On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 09:37:25 -0500
>  Matthew Seybold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >That's a great question, Hal.
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> >When I wrote my dissertation on the figure of the con-artist, I spent 
> >a little time on conspiracy theories, which are often created and/or 
> >amplified by con-artists. One of the most extraordinary conspiracy 
> >theories of the 1830s circulated around "the Mystic Clan." This was, 
> >supposedly, a secret society led by a notorious outlaw, John Murrell, 
> >and thanks in large part to Virgil Stewart, who published a series of 
> >books and pamphlets claiming to expose the Mystic Clan's plots, they 
> >were planning to start slave insurrections as a distraction while 
> >they raided banks in major Gulf Coast cities. The conspiracy theory 
> >synthesizes anti-Black, anti-Semite, anti-Catholic, and several other 
> >common antebellum prejudices.
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> >Twain was definitely aware of Murrell, whose real (and fictional) 
> >operations had been in the trade corridor where Twain was later a 
> >pilot. He refers to "Murel" in LIFE ON THE MISSISSIPPI as a criminal 
> >"genius" who made Jesse James look like a "retail rascal." In this 
> >passage, Twain mentions several details from the Mystic Clan 
> >conspiracy theory and seems to be treating it as accurate history, 
> >although he also acknowledges in the same paragraph that "cheap 
> >histories" of romantic outlaws were for sale at train stations and 
> >steamboat landings. Melville alludes to the same market for specious 
> >criminal biography in the opening chapter of THE CONFIDENCE-MAN, 
> >specifically naming Murrell its most profitable topics. I haven't dug 
> >into whether Twain refers to this conspiracy elsewhere later in his career.
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> >Like you, I'd love to know what others C19 conspiracies people have 
> >encountered in Twain's life and work. There are, of course, several 
> >alluded to in Richard Hofstadter's THE PARANOID STYLE IN AMERICAN 
> >POLITICS.
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> >Stay safe, everybody.
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> >- MS
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> >On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 8:42 AM Hal Bush <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> >> Dear friends: what a week. Can I tie these horrific events into C19
> >& MT?
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> >> A friend has passed on his terrifying essay on a conspiracy theory
> >way back in 1860, see below.  I think we need reminding that 
> >conspiracy theories have a very long history in our nation, and that 
> >they can be deadly and incendiary.
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> >> Q; has anyone looked into MT's encounter with and understanding/
> >critique of conspiracy theory--pro and con?
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> >> There is nothing new about conspiracy theories. Recently, while
> >doing some research on the history of lynching, I learned that 
> >Anthony Bewley, a Methodist minister, was lynched in Fort Worth, 
> >Texas, back in 1860. Bewley was the victim of a bizarre conspiracy theory.
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> >> Director of the Undergraduate Program
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> >> Saint Louis University
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