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Fear and Loathing in TLS

My reactions were annoyance, chuckles, and fatigue. I will skip the 
annoyance and start with the chuckles. I do not think highfalutin 
Twainphobes were the target readers for any of the books that twisted Karlin’s 
fancy-pants knickers, but it is not fair to brush off his screed without 
some specificity. He criticizes some essayists for telling him “things we 
knew already” after he noted that Twain wrote some very good things and some 
very bad things, and before he let it slip that Adventures of Huckleberry 
Finn is a masterpiece and that the jumping frog tale is a frame narrative. 
Intentional irony or unintentional hypocrisy? Funny either way, and the 
royal “we” is a nice touch. He says the essays in Mark Twain and Youth are 
uneven in “level or tone” despite the explicit warning in the introduction 
that the essayists do not all “talk alike”—this would have been inauthentic, 
just as Mark Twain famously warned readers of HF. Is he pretending he did 
not read the introduction? Or is he genuinely phobic of the diverse 
opinions, backgrounds, and writing styles? Either way, more chuckles, but I 
am sorry if he was frightened. When discussing the other books he squanders 
a lot of time telling us what he doesn’t like about books about Twain, 
providing only selective sketchy accounts of the books themselves. He bloats 
the lower bowels of his tract with a lot of gas about what he thinks are 
deep thoughts about Twain’s writings. Is this a trickster pretending to 
write a book review? Iterum chucklesus. His assessment of recent Twain 
scholarship (2016-2018) ignores excellent books by Beidler, Driscoll, 
Kinzer, Rasmussen, Roorda, Wuster, Zacks, and Zwonitzer. Now, what is so 
funny about that? All of these books, as well as those that induced Karlin’s 
burbling dyspepsia, have been favorably reviewed elsewhere at greater length 
by better-informed reviewers who actually like Twain, understand the 
necessarily broader scope of serious scholarly enquiry, practice the 
rhetoric taught in Book Reviewing 101, and actually tell us all things we 
did not already know. Fatigue soon descended, and only when his rant ended 
was the air again free of his falutulence. (Yes, I know). Readers have just 
one option—read the five books he discussed and the eight he did not, and 
decide for themselves. But woe unto ye wearers of fancy knickers.

Kevin
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Hal Bush
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 9:10 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TLS review: recent MT scholarship

True, yes --  but aren't some of academia's biggest critics and sassiest pr=
ovocateurs to be found among senior professors -- true insiders??


If you want to read a terrific writer/essayist, who knows the Ivy-covered h=
alls well, and excoriates some of our most esteemed values and pleasures:  =
check out Joseph Epstein.  But if you do, prepare both to laugh out loud bu=
t also disagree violently with some of his claims.  If he is new to anyone,=
I suggest starting with A Literary Education ....




Dr. Hal Bush

Dept. of English

Saint Louis University

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Subject: Re: TLS review: recent MT scholarship

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