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HISTORY OF ECONOMIC THOUGHT 
IS IT "HISTORY" OR "ECONOMICS"? 
 
University of Manitoba 
Economics Departmental Conference 
 
Delta Marsh Field Station 
29-30 September 1995 
 
 
The Manitoba department's annual conference this year focused on 
the history of economic thought. The background for the theme was 
the department's potential reevaluation of its resource 
commitment to history of economics in the face of declining 
budgets and program cuts (Manitoba is a relatively eclectic 
department with three members publishing in the history of 
economic thought--Forget, Chernomas, and Waterman--and several 
others who have enough training to teach the field at the 
undergraduate level; history of thought is currently required). 
How important is the history of economic thought for training 
economics students (at both undergraduate and graduate levels) 
relative to other program requirements? 
 
Invited guests were Warren Samuels and Ross Emmett (a Manitoba 
graduate). Departmental contributions were provided by Norm 
Cameron and Evelyn Forget. The four papers were distributed 
ahead of time, enabling greater discussion time at the sessions. 
Roughly 2/3's of the department attended, along with 6 graduate 
students. Total attendance was about 30 persons. Five 1 and 1/2 
hour plenary sessions were held over 24 hours, beginning on 
Friday evening and ending late Saturday afternoon. The setting 
was the University's biological field station on the bank of the 
south end of Lake Manitoba. With beautiful fall weather, the 
southern migration of geese over the lake, and wonderful fall 
colours, the setting couldn't have been better (for the 
prairies!). 
 
Warren Samuels began the conference with an open discussion based 
on his paper "The Work of Historians of Economic Thought." Rather 
than seeking to defend the relative merits of study in the 
history of economic thought, Warren used the strategy of 
articulating the wide range of activities that historians of 
economic thought engage in. As historians of *economic thought*, 
we tell stories of the discipline's intellectual development-- 
often intended to either provide a justification for current 
theoretical concerns or recover past diversity lost in the 
concerns of contemporary hegemony, and rationally reconstruct 
older ideas and theories which can provide contemporary insights 
or form the basis for new work. As historians of *economics*, we 
study the practices of the discipline (the exclusion/inclusion of 
individuals, structure of schools, educational training, etc.), 
the origin and adoption of theories, and the relation of ideas to 
their contexts (e.g., personal biography, historical time period, 
and the "various networks and filiations that have existed and 
continue to exist"). As *historians*, we take care to recover and 
preserve archival materials; we also realize that we construct 
history, and bring to that construction our own interests and 
theoretical concerns. Throughout his paper, and the discussion of 
it, Warren stressed the breadth of perspective and method gained 
by the participation of historians of economic thought in the 
economics discipline. 
 
The discussion of Warren's paper set out fairly clearly the 
central issues of the weekend. Sympathetic to the history of 
economic thought both as a set of professional activities and as 
an essential part of an economist's training, department members 
focused on the merits of its inclusion in the required core of 
the department's curriculum relative to other required training 
(in econometrics, for example). Good economists all, they asked 
what the opportunity cost of devoting significant departmental 
resources to the history of economic thought was, given the 
reality of shrinking budgets and possibly fewer faculty 
positions. One question that appeared during the opening 
discussion, and then again later, was the relative merits of 
focusing attention on the history of economic thought in a 
separate course versus including some attention to it in a 
variety of courses (from reading Heilbroner, Fusfeld, etc. in 
first year, to assigning classic texts in some of the sub- 
fields). No consensus emerged on that question over the weekend. 
Another theme raised that evening that recurred several times 
over the weekend was the curricular role of a history of economic 
thought course in providing students with the "ah-ha" experience 
of seeing a unified vision of what economics was all about. 
 
Saturday morning there were two sessions. At the first, Evelyn 
Forget outlined the merits of studying the history of economic 
thought in her presentation: "Why should a professional economist 
study the history of economic thought?" Beginning with the 
premise that economists often see no merit in studying the 
"absurd opinions and doctrines which have been denounced" 
(quotation from Say), Evelyn articulated a number of benefits to 
be gained by the study of the history of economic thought. As 
theorists, the study of the history of economic thought helps us 
in several ways: it helps us to see economic theory as a living 
and evolving entity; it provides students with another 
opportunity to practice economic analysis; it teaches 
intellectual humility; it makes us aware that economic theories 
are constructed at particular points in time and place, and often 
for particular purposes; and it helps us to recover lost ideas 
that are often vital at times of dispute in the contemporary 
discipline. As professional economists, the study of the history 
of economic thought provides several other things: it is one of 
the places where students of economics learn to communicate with 
non-economists; it makes one aware of the different types of 
evidence or data relevant to a problem; and it teaches us that 
economics is part of a larger conversation. Evelyn concluded with 
the suggestion that the study of the history of economic thought 
also makes us better people: "What could be better than producing 
students who can read and write, who have respect and regard for 
the accomplishments of other people and other intellectual 
traditions, who have a healthy skepticism about the 'truth value' 
of what we profess but, simultaneously, recognize that we do have 
valuable insights to share? What is better than producing 
students who look toward the accomplishments of an ever evolving 
future with a solid grounding in the insights of the past?" 
 
The other morning session focused on Norman Cameron's paper: "The 
history of economic thought: progress or cycle [a suggested 
alternative was "progress or Poisson distribution"]?" Norm 
provided a "Colanderesque" account of macroeconomic thought in 
postwar North America, based on the notion that the evolution of 
macroeconomic ideas are explicable in terms of the operation of 
the demand and supply of ideas within the institutional framework 
of a discipline's leading graduate schools. In such a market, 
"the only visible product of a new approach for several decades 
may be its own replication. The invisible hand . . . may produce 
outcomes more commonly the result of invisible parasites." Norm's 
paper provided the occasion for two related discussions. The 
first focused on a theme that had recurred throughout the earlier 
discussions; namely, that if the criteria of truth-seeking were 
efficient contemporary scientific theory would encapsulate all 
that was right in past theory (the point is usually made by 
asking "does chemistry or physics need its history?"). Norm's 
paper suggested that the criteria of success in the institutional 
framework of the academic market are not the criteria of truth- 
seeking (reputation and self-promotion are the central interests, 
not truth), and hence, that there is no guarantee that present 
theory will encapsulate anything from the past. The second 
discussion raised here regarded postmodernism. Norm resisted the 
ascription; Warren and Ross argued that his paper opened the door 
for the postmodern turn by making scientific practice the object 
of study, by pointing out the multiplicity of criteria at work in 
scientific practice, and by providing a non-equilibrating account 
of the scientific practice of economists. 
 
After lunch and time for a walk on the lakeshore, the 
participants settled in for Ross Emmett's presentation: 
"Reflections on 'Breaking Away': Economics as Science and the 
History of Economics as History of Science." Responding to 
Margaret Schabas' 1992 *HOPE* article on the relation of the 
history of economics to the history of science, Ross provided a 
framework for distinguishing between the history of economic 
thought and the history of economics (an argument HES subscribers 
might remember from a discussion in the spring) and then 
considered some of the distinction's implications for historians 
of economics. Focusing on the discursive elements of scientific 
practice, Ross argued that the history of economic thought is an 
integral part of economic theory because it engages the theory's 
tradition of discussion from the standpoint of contemporary 
theoretical conversation (in an earlier discussion, Ross 
suggested that a history of economic thought course is the 
students' theory course; what most "theory" courses do is apply 
math to that theory); the history of economics, on the other 
hand, is a part of the discipline of intellectual history, in 
that it attempts to provide a historical identity for economic 
ideas and practices (If you have read this far, you will realize 
that Ross and Warren made similar distinctions in their papers). 
After pointing out the difference between his argument for the 
integral relation between the history of economic thought and 
economic science and the argument that the history of economic 
thought is integral to economics because economics is a social 
science (implying that natural sciences don't need their history 
of scientific thought), Ross went on to question whether the 
history of science provided the only other context for historians 
of economics. Here he pointed to intellectual history, social and 
cultural history, the sociology of knowledge, and even economics 
as providing (possibly alternative) explanatory frameworks for 
the explanation of the ideas and practices of economics. 
 
The conference closed with a general discussion about the themes 
that had emerged during the sessions. Much of that discussion 
focused on whether the history of economic thought provided the 
only course in which students gained that vision of what 
economics was about that an economics program should presumably 
provide. 
 
 
Ross B. Emmett, Augustana University College, Camrose, Alberta 
CANADA   T4V 2R3   voice: (403) 679-1517   fax: (403) 679-1129 
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